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I am trying to find these two brothers, sons of Henry Moss Skilling and Jane Gover after the deaths of their father and mother in 1875/6. 

I think I have found Samuel, boarding with his Aunt Mary Anstead in Walton in 1881 but after that he vanishes. 

In 1885 their brother Walter Moss Skilling is killed in Egypt and William is named as his next of kin, William is stated as being in the Royal West Surrey Regmt, but I cannot find him in 1881 or after 1885.

Two sisters Charlotte Ann and Ada Lydia went to Canada in about 1882.  (Both were married at different times to James William Goring).  It is therefore possible that Samuel and William also went to Canada but I have been unable to find any record for them.

Any help would be much appreciated.

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Re: Samuel Moss Skilling born 1869 and William Moss Skilling born 1863 Bagshot
« Reply #1 on: Friday 08 April 22 16:02 BST (UK) »
There's a Sam Skilling age 19 on a ship from London to Brisbane arrival date 19 Feb 1889.

Ship name Dorunda.
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Re: Samuel Moss Skilling born 1869 and William Moss Skilling born 1863 Bagshot
« Reply #2 on: Friday 08 April 22 16:22 BST (UK) »
There is a family tree on Ancestry showing this family - including the details of Sam's journey to Australia found by Milliepede.

There may be info on that tree which you may not have.

Places of interest;
Lancashire, West Yorkshire, Southern Ireland, Scotland.

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Re: Samuel Moss Skilling born 1869 and William Moss Skilling born 1863 Bagshot
« Reply #3 on: Friday 08 April 22 16:26 BST (UK) »
Unfortunately I don't have an Ancestry sub atm, but finding a possible journey is a start.  Thank you both.
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Tagg, Bowyer (Berkshire/Surrey), Adams, Small, Pratt, Coles, Stevens, Cox (Bucks), Grocott, Slater, Dean, Hill (Staffs/Shropshire), Holloway, Flint, Warrington,Turnbull (London), Montague, Barrett (Herts), Hayward (Kent), Gallon, Knight, Ede, Tribe, Bunn, Northeast, Nicholds (Sussex) Penduck, Pinnell, Yeeles (Gloucs), Johns (Monmouth and Devon), Head (Bath), Tedbury, Bowyer (Somerset), Chapman, Barrett (Herts/Essex)


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Re: Samuel Moss Skilling born 1869 and William Moss Skilling born 1863 Bagshot
« Reply #4 on: Friday 08 April 22 16:26 BST (UK) »
There are  service documents on Ancestry for William Skilling , showing next of kin as Mrs Goring. His attestation is dated 10 June 1884 , with QRWS  Regt, and here are brief details :

June 1884 - Dec 1885 home
Dec 1885 - Oct 1886 India
Oct 1886 - Apr 1887 Burma
Apr 1887 - Jan 1892 E India
Jan 1892 - Apr 1900 home
Apr 1900 - ? 1901 South Africa
? 1901 - ? 1901 home ( 5 days prior to discharge ).
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Re: Samuel Moss Skilling born 1869 and William Moss Skilling born 1863 Bagshot
« Reply #5 on: Friday 08 April 22 16:45 BST (UK) »
There is also a document for a William Skilling of West End, Chobham, Surrey, who had served formerly with QRWS , attesting 22 Aug 1916 , at the age of 58,  in the Royal Defence Corps. He was discharged in 1918. His next of kin is given as his friend Mrs Mary O'Brien  , also of West End Chobham.

Have you ruled out the death in 1920 ?
J-M 1920 Chertsey 2a 100.
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Re: Samuel Moss Skilling born 1869 and William Moss Skilling born 1863 Bagshot
« Reply #6 on: Friday 08 April 22 16:54 BST (UK) »
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Re: Samuel Moss Skilling born 1869 and William Moss Skilling born 1863 Bagshot
« Reply #7 on: Friday 08 April 22 17:10 BST (UK) »
Thank you Christine - I haven't ruled anything out!
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Re: Samuel Moss Skilling born 1869 and William Moss Skilling born 1863 Bagshot
« Reply #8 on: Friday 08 April 22 19:17 BST (UK) »
This may be a red herring but other's may be able to check out as I have to go away for 24 hours.

If Sam went to Australia 1899 aged 19 then there is a marriage of a Samuel Skilling to a Josephine Louise Wistard Wilson in 1901 New South Wales. They then appear in Western Australia on 1910 electoral register. Then there are these 2 deaths but no ages given sadly.

Skilling   Josephine L   Female               Perth   120   1930

Skilling   Samuel   Male                               Perth   1905   

There are other Skilling deaths in Perth that could be possible children

John

Added, NOT your man, he was born 1874 in Llanelly