Cannot find Joseph John Reilly in 1901 and 1911 census

[NicolaasMars]

Joseph John REILLY was born 28 Dec 1880 in Montgomery Street, Carlow, as son of James Reilly (baker) and Ellen Deegan. I think (not sure!) he died as a bachelor on 30 Dec 1951 in Edenberry, Co. Offaly.
I can't find him in the 1901 and 1911 census. He is not with his parents in 1901 and 1911.
Can anyone of you find him in the censuses?

[heywood]

Where are his parents living in 1901/11, Nicolaas?

[NicolaasMars]

They live in Drumagh, Turra, Queen's Co.

[heywood]

Is that this family?

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Queen_s_Co_/Turra/Drumagh/787599/

Ellen states she has given birth to 16 children and 11 are still living in 1911.

There is a child Joseph born 1900 with them in 1911
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1900/01995/1767471.pdf

Maybe your Joseph died before 1900.

[NicolaasMars]

Ah, I overlooked that count of the still living children. When I count them, I reach 11 living in 1911 only when I assume that Joseph John died before 1911. Thank you for that hint!

However, I fail to find a death for Joseph John Reilly in 1880-1911. I noticed that rootsireland.ie does not have deaths for Carlow in that time interval. Could that explain why I cannot find the death?

[heywood]

You should be able to find it here
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/en/

I can’t see the 1951 death you refer to and that should be there too.

At first, I thought that it might be two different families but looking at births, it isn’t.

James was a Baker in Carlow but then is a farmer. Perhaps he took over a family farm around 1900?

I also wondered if Joseph could be known as John?

Maybe through https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/en/ you could find the sixteen children and then the 5 deaths. It would take time.

[NicolaasMars]

Yes, I found the (probably wrong) death on the name John: died 13 Dec 1952 Edenderry, Co. Offaly. Age 71, labourer, bachelor.

I will go through the 16 children  (but not today).

Thank you for your helpful suggestions!

[heywood]

Here is a death for Thomas 1879
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1879/06515/4876638.pdf

There is a birth and then a later child, Thomas in 1901 census.

Elizabeth died 1886
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1886/06240/4786412.pdf

Michael 1894 - there is a birth for this chikd and a later one was also named Michael
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1894/05975/4698861.pdf

Now that is only 3 children and easily identified as ‘Baker’s child’ and births.

It might be that Joseph emigrated?

[Kiltaglassan]

Yes, I found the (probably wrong) death on the name John: died 13 Dec 1952 Edenderry, Co. Offaly. Age 71, labourer, bachelor.

Actually died 30th December 1951 at Col. Perry Street, Edenderry.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1952/04491/4179629.pdf