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How to locate Christening Records BURY 1947
« on: Tuesday 12 April 22 21:42 BST (UK) »
I am trying locate the christening record of Jean Elizabeth May Wall born 1930's believed to have died in the last two years. Unable to verify this fact, due to the GRO Indexes not being updated.

I am trying to trace her father Percy Walter John Wall, born 6 July 1904 whereabouts unknown since the 1936 electoral roll living at 2 Church Place Paddington with his mother Elizabeth.

He had married Alice May Jones on 27 Sep 1930 • Paddington, London, United Kingdom, Her whereabouts are also unknown.
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Name   Jean Elizabeth May Wall
Sex   Female
Christening Date   29 Nov 1947
Christening Place   Bury, Lancashire, England, United Kingdom
Christening Place (Original)   Bury, Lancashire, England
Father's Name   Percy Walter John Wall
Father's Sex   Male
Mother's Name   May
Mother's Sex   Female

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This entry on Family Search is preventing us for viewing the records. Can anyone help us find a way to view the original record. or where to locate the physical copy'

"England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975", database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:CN65-XFN2 : 18 September 2020), Percy Walter John Wall in entry for Jean Elizabeth May Wall, 1947.
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Abis/Aberish      {Vilna/Vilnius Lithuania}
St George/ Robson   {Bethnal Green /Shoreditch}
Thornton/ Wand /Wall/ Jones   {Paddington/ Bethnal Green}
Marklew /Wall  {Bethnal Green }
Sanderson/ Wayman { Ely Cambridgeshire}

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Re: How to locate Christening Records BURY 1947
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 12 April 22 22:09 BST (UK) »
Looks like the parents separated from what you've given.

Looked for Jean based on her birth date in tge 1939 register?
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Re: How to locate Christening Records BURY 1947
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 12 April 22 22:22 BST (UK) »
Percy was a twin - sister was Sarah Elizabeth.  Born 6.7.1904 & christened 10.8.1904 St Mary’s Paddington
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Re: How to locate Christening Records BURY 1947
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 12 April 22 22:27 BST (UK) »
Thank you for help but we already have that information. It is Percy and Alice Wall who are proving elusive and who we would love to trace :)
Abis/Aberish      {Vilna/Vilnius Lithuania}
St George/ Robson   {Bethnal Green /Shoreditch}
Thornton/ Wand /Wall/ Jones   {Paddington/ Bethnal Green}
Marklew /Wall  {Bethnal Green }
Sanderson/ Wayman { Ely Cambridgeshire}


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Re: How to locate Christening Records BURY 1947
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 12 April 22 22:31 BST (UK) »
Did Jean marry?

Have you checked if her mother re-married

If you believe Jean has died have you checked if she left a will

https://probatesearch.service.gov.uk/
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Re: How to locate Christening Records BURY 1947
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 12 April 22 22:54 BST (UK) »
Are you searching the baptism because you are wondering why she was baptised in Bury?
Did Percy or Alice have connections there?
Her birth was registered in Marylebone.
Do you have the birth certificate? It should have details of Percy’s occupation.
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Re: How to locate Christening Records BURY 1947
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 12 April 22 23:00 BST (UK) »
Yes l have Jean's birth certificate and yes l am wondering she was christened in Bury 14 years after her birth. Percy's mother moved to Rochdale during WW2. It is just that there is no trace of Percy at all. The entry below is what has got me thinking? Thank for your time.

This entry on Family Search is preventing us for viewing the records. Can anyone help us find a way to view the original record. or where to locate the physical copy'

"England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975", database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:CN65-XFN2 : 18 September 2020), Percy Walter John Wall in entry for Jean Elizabeth May Wall, 1947.
Abis/Aberish      {Vilna/Vilnius Lithuania}
St George/ Robson   {Bethnal Green /Shoreditch}
Thornton/ Wand /Wall/ Jones   {Paddington/ Bethnal Green}
Marklew /Wall  {Bethnal Green }
Sanderson/ Wayman { Ely Cambridgeshire}

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Re: How to locate Christening Records BURY 1947
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 13 April 22 01:34 BST (UK) »
born 26 March 1933 believed to have died in the last two years. Unable to verify this fact, due to the GRO Indexes not being updated.


As you can't confirm whether she has died RootsChat privacy policy is that you don't put identifying information on the public forum.

As to why she was baptised aged 14, it may have been prior to her being confirmed, if C. of E. or Catholic or perhaps becoming a full member of another denomination.
Do you know which denomination she belonged to?
A list of churches in Bury with foundation year (and closure year) is on Lancashire Online Parish Clerks*
website www.lan-opc.org.uk
What other information are you hoping to get from seeing the baptism register entry?
Have you not found her mother on 1939 Register?
Where was Percy's mother on 1939 Register?

*Added. It depends on whether Family Search means it was the town of Bury, the parish of Bury or the district of Bury. If grandma lived in Rochdale and granddaughter lived with her, it may have been a church on the Rochdale side of Bury. 
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Re: How to locate Christening Records BURY 1947
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 13 April 22 06:45 BST (UK) »
This looks to be the death of Elizabeth, Percy’s mother.
1951 Bury
Elizabeth Martha Maria Wall, 84 yrs

I agree with Maiden Stone that confirmation is a very likely reason fo be baptised at that age.

If you think that grandmother and grandchild were together, then an address for Elizabeth might lead you to a local church record.

You mention that you ‘believe Jean has died in the last two years’ - do you know where she was living?

I suppose that none of this may help as you are really interested in Percy’s whereabouts though.
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