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Reading a naval Discharge book record help
« on: Wednesday 13 April 22 14:49 BST (UK) »
Hello there.

Attached is the record of one Daniel Kennedy. It looks like he was buried at sea in 1928.

Can anyone read / interpret any more of the slanted scrawl, that might help me identify which ship he would have been on?

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Re: Reading a naval Discharge book record help
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 13 April 22 15:26 BST (UK) »
Hi.
Have you got a Card CR2 for him. (Available from FindMyPast) On the reverse of the card his ships should be listed by official number. Use the "CLIP" website to find the name/s of the vessels her served on.
https://www.crewlist.org.uk/#Data

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Re: Reading a naval Discharge book record help
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 13 April 22 15:31 BST (UK) »
Thanks Seaweed.

I’ve got this (see attached) but it doesn’t seem to go as far as 1928?

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Re: Reading a naval Discharge book record help
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 13 April 22 15:57 BST (UK) »
Daniel Kennedy died at sea on 1.7.1928 from heart failure aboard ss DEMOSTHENES official number 129362. The ship’s position was 50.25N 6.40W.

He has a CR1 and a CR2 card as well as the CR10 card shown above. The other cards show a list of further ships up until 1928.
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« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 13 April 22 16:09 BST (UK) »
Hugh, thats AMAZING. Thank you so much. How on earth and where on earth did you find that out?

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Re: Reading a naval Discharge book record help
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 13 April 22 16:12 BST (UK) »
Daniel Kennedy died at sea on 1.7.1928 from heart failure aboard ss DEMOSTHENES official number 129362. The ship’s position was 50.25N 6.40W.

He has a CR1 and a CR2 card as well as the CR10 card shown above. The other cards show a list of further ships up until 1928.
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Thank you. May I ask what CR1 , 2 and 10 cards are for? Are they all logs? Where might I find this information from? I'm very grateful.

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Re: Reading a naval Discharge book record help
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 13 April 22 16:15 BST (UK) »
Hi.
Have you got a Card CR2 for him. (Available from FindMyPast) On the reverse of the card his ships should be listed by official number. Use the "CLIP" website to find the name/s of the vessels her served on.
https://www.crewlist.org.uk/#Data

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SW
Thanks Seaweed.

I’ve got this (see attached) but it doesn’t seem to go as far as 1928?

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That appears to be the reverse of his card CR10.
In September 1918 the Board of Trade introduced an identity book, including a passport style photograph, for all merchant seamen working from British ports, together with a matching central card index (CR10 cards). Each card lists personal and foreign voyage detail for the seaman and a good quality photograph.The system operated until 1921 when it was simplified and the photograph dropped. After this date until 1941 The Cards CR1/CR2 was used to record the ships he served on.
Crew agreements and Logbooks can be obtained from three major sources. Read this guide.
https://www.rmg.co.uk/collections/research-guides/research-guide-c1-merchant-navy-tracing-people-crew-lists-agreements
Scroll down.
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Re: Reading a naval Discharge book record help
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 13 April 22 16:29 BST (UK) »
Both CR1 and CR2 cards are on FindMyPast. He also has a WW1 medal card held at Kew in piece
BT 351/1/75934 - https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/D8043410 you can download this for free if you sign in to the above link.
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« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 13 April 22 16:38 BST (UK) »
I also have him on ss MAXTON and ss BALTIC in 1915 You can see his name in the crew agreements of both ships at his link - https://1915crewlists.rmg.co.uk/ just go to advanced search input his name and place of birth, Liverpool, should do it.
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