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1871 Census Lower Merthyr Tydfil
« on: Friday 15 April 22 17:13 BST (UK) »
Hello  :) please can you help as I am stuck trying to read occupation information on the census sheet (Piece 5393, Folio 14, Page 11) for the following person:
Edward Lewis - Head, aged 62 (1809), married, born Merthyr, Glamorgan living at Ponty Gwaith The Work Bridge Farm. (His wife Hanah aged 55 (1816), and son Isaac aged 15 are with him).
It says, Farm Servant, 30 acres, for Mr William P (?e or i)(?d) ???.  So could be saying Mr William (then a surname starting with P) or Mr Williams (then the name of a place starting with P)
I'm assuming 'Mr' from the way the 'M' in Merthyr is written on other parts of the census sheet, and 'William' from the same names on the page.
There aren't any clues from other census, for the same address to help me.
I have attached a snip, but probably needs to be looked at in the whole census image.
If you can help, I would be very grateful.
Thanks
Mar
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Re: 1871 Census Lower Merthyr Tydfil
« Reply #1 on: Friday 15 April 22 18:46 BST (UK) »
Hello

I read it as Farm Servant for Mr William Piddem (or Peddem)

The 80 acres would refer the size of the farm

I'll have a look for Mr Piddem - variations


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Re: 1871 Census Lower Merthyr Tydfil
« Reply #2 on: Friday 15 April 22 18:53 BST (UK) »
The 1881 has him at the same farm (Pont y gwaith)* where he's recorded as a woodman.

5310/125/1

* the address is written very badly.


PS - there is one that came up in my search on the latest census in Neath - much too young for your Mr P!
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Re: 1871 Census Lower Merthyr Tydfil
« Reply #3 on: Friday 15 April 22 19:13 BST (UK) »
Looking at the original page of the 1871, I'm not sure if it ends ....dem,

Add - I don't see any place names, so far. that look like the P word.
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Re: 1871 Census Lower Merthyr Tydfil
« Reply #4 on: Friday 15 April 22 19:25 BST (UK) »
There is a small hamlet/village called Penydarren in Merthyr.  It could have been scribbled/condensed on the form.
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Re: 1871 Census Lower Merthyr Tydfil
« Reply #5 on: Friday 15 April 22 20:15 BST (UK) »
Thanks Gadget for taking the time to think it through. I was starting to see double  :)
I didn't think of Penydarren, or even just thought that it could be Penderyn - all within a few miles.

I suppose as well, it could be the name of another farm somewhere local, or the name of a house.
I'm going to search some more
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