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William Northcott marr 1839 Ann Venning, Lived Mostly in Torquay
« on: Sunday 17 April 22 18:28 BST (UK) »
William was bapt Sep 10, 1815 in Lamerton, Devon, s/o James Northcott + Prothesia Huggins
Ann was bapt Oct 10, 1813 in Treneglos, Cornwall, d/o Richard Venning + Ann Spettigue

William and Ann married in 1839 in Bradstone or Bradstowe, Devon. He was of full age, a bachelor, his residence was "Fieldown Head" and his father was James Northcott.
Ann was of full age, a spinster, her residence was "Fieldown Head" and her father was Richard Venning.

1)  I have much info regarding the parents (William Northcott + Ann Venning) but would like to locate their deaths or burials.

2)  I'm trying to find marriages for any of their children other than youngest child Richard who eventually went to Ohio, USA and died there.

3)  Also, which of their children was the parent of James Northcott born about 1863 in Torquay. (He married Eleanor Woodward in 1891 in Newton Abbott registration district and they moved to Ohio, USA)



INFORMATION on FAMILY and WHERE THEY LIVED:

In 1841, they lived at Windmill Lane in St Mary Magdalene, Launceston, Cornwall
William Northcott 25, out of county, Blacksmith
Ann Northcott 25, born in county
Sarah Northcott 1 yr. born in county
Jane Northcott 15, born in county

In 1851, Temperance Street in Torquay, Devon
William Northcott Head 37 Lamerton, Devon
Ann Northcott Wife 39 Treneglos, Cornwall
Sarah Northcott Dau 11 Launceston, Cornwall
Elizh Northcott Dau 10 Launceston, Cornwall
William Northcott Son 7 Devonport, Devonshire [born John William Northcott]
Mary Ann Northcott Dau 5 Devonport, Devonshire

In 1861, Factory Row, Torquay
William Northcott 43, Lamerton, Devon, Blacksmith
Ann Northcott 45, Treneglos, Cornwall
Sarah Northcott 21, St Thomas, Devon [actually Launceston, Cornwall]
Elizth Northcott 19, Launceston, Cornwall
William Northcott 17, Devonport, Devon
Mary A Northcott 14, Devonport, Devon
Richard Northcott 12, Devonport, Devon

In 1871, Hela Gasworks, St Mary's Church, Devon
William Northcote    56    Head, Lamerton, Devon, Manager of Gas Works
Ann Northcote       56    Wife. Treneglos, Cornwall
John Northcote            27    Son, Devonport, Devon Coach Smith
James Northcote          7   Grandson, Torquay

and in 1881, 5 Church Street, Torquay
William Northcott 66, head, Lamerton, Devon, Gas Fitter
Ann Northcott 68, wife, Treneglos, Cornwall
James Northcott 18, grandson, Torquay, General Labourer

Many thanks!!
Cheshire, Eng: HADDOCK, WORRALL, GOULDING, DICKINSON, DIMELOW

Lancashire, Eng:  LITTLER, FARRIMOND, BILSBURY, DICKENSON, DICKINSON, THOMASON

Lanarkshire, Scotland: AIRTH, GARDNER, JAMIESON, PARK, URIE, SMELLIE, TITCHBORNE

Midlothian Scotland:  AIRTH, EDMOND, GILCHRIST

Perthshire Scotland: FISHER, McLAREN, STEWART, McGREGOR
 
Renfrewshire, Scotland: HAMILTON, McKECHNIE, McKECHANY + variations

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Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb

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Re: William Northcott marr 1839 Ann Venning, Lived Mostly in Torquay
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 17 April 22 19:07 BST (UK) »
possible birth regs for James

James Northcott june qtr 1864 Newton Abbott vol 5b pg 137 mmn Tancock
or
James Hornsbery Northcott june 1864 Newton Abbott vol 5b pg 160 mmn -

This family appears to account for the James where the mother's maiden name is Tancock
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q276-TVM3
birth regs for other children have same maiden name

So, birth reg for the other James shows him to be illegitimate and likely the son of an unmarried daughter.
Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb

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Re: William Northcott marr 1839 Ann Venning, Lived Mostly in Torquay
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 17 April 22 20:56 BST (UK) »
Thanks so much!

I was thinking that he was the son of an unmarried daughter and since they had 3, I'll have to do some more hunting because after the 1861 Census, I can't find any of them :(

Cheshire, Eng: HADDOCK, WORRALL, GOULDING, DICKINSON, DIMELOW

Lancashire, Eng:  LITTLER, FARRIMOND, BILSBURY, DICKENSON, DICKINSON, THOMASON

Lanarkshire, Scotland: AIRTH, GARDNER, JAMIESON, PARK, URIE, SMELLIE, TITCHBORNE

Midlothian Scotland:  AIRTH, EDMOND, GILCHRIST

Perthshire Scotland: FISHER, McLAREN, STEWART, McGREGOR
 
Renfrewshire, Scotland: HAMILTON, McKECHNIE, McKECHANY + variations


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Re: William Northcott marr 1839 Ann Venning, Lived Mostly in Torquay
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 17 April 22 21:46 BST (UK) »
I wondered if this death reg could be Sarah?

Sarah Northcote 28 dec qtr 1867 Newton Abbot vol 5b pg 95
Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb

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Re: William Northcott marr 1839 Ann Venning, Lived Mostly in Torquay
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 17 April 22 22:18 BST (UK) »
burial for Richard at same address as 1841 census

https://www.cornwall-opc-database.org/search-database/more-info/?t=burials&id=1645620

and Ann the following year

https://www.cornwall-opc-database.org/search-database/more-info/?t=burials&id=1645623

Thanks! Yes, those are the parents of Ann Venning who married William Northcott
Cheshire, Eng: HADDOCK, WORRALL, GOULDING, DICKINSON, DIMELOW

Lancashire, Eng:  LITTLER, FARRIMOND, BILSBURY, DICKENSON, DICKINSON, THOMASON

Lanarkshire, Scotland: AIRTH, GARDNER, JAMIESON, PARK, URIE, SMELLIE, TITCHBORNE

Midlothian Scotland:  AIRTH, EDMOND, GILCHRIST

Perthshire Scotland: FISHER, McLAREN, STEWART, McGREGOR
 
Renfrewshire, Scotland: HAMILTON, McKECHNIE, McKECHANY + variations

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Re: William Northcott marr 1839 Ann Venning, Lived Mostly in Torquay
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 17 April 22 22:23 BST (UK) »
I wondered if this death reg could be Sarah?

Sarah Northcote 28 dec qtr 1867 Newton Abbot vol 5b pg 95

Yes, that looks promising since the last time she appears is the 1861 Census in Torquay and she could be the mother of James Northcott born about 1863 and that would explain why he's with his grandparents in 1871 and 1881 Census.

Mind you, she also had sisters Elizabeth born 1842 who is also a candidate and Mary Ann born about 1845-46 to a lesser extent as she'd be 17 yrs old when James was born.

I found a "possible" death for Ann (Venning) Northcott but if it is her, wonder why I cannot find her in 1891 Census?

    Name: Ann Northcott
    Age: 81
    Birth Year (Estimated): 1816
    Death Date: 1897
    Death Place: Newton Abbot, Devon, England
    Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec
    Registration Year: 1897
    Registration District: Newton Abbot [7]
    Page: 100
    Volume: 5B 
Cheshire, Eng: HADDOCK, WORRALL, GOULDING, DICKINSON, DIMELOW

Lancashire, Eng:  LITTLER, FARRIMOND, BILSBURY, DICKENSON, DICKINSON, THOMASON

Lanarkshire, Scotland: AIRTH, GARDNER, JAMIESON, PARK, URIE, SMELLIE, TITCHBORNE

Midlothian Scotland:  AIRTH, EDMOND, GILCHRIST

Perthshire Scotland: FISHER, McLAREN, STEWART, McGREGOR
 
Renfrewshire, Scotland: HAMILTON, McKECHNIE, McKECHANY + variations

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Re: William Northcott marr 1839 Ann Venning, Lived Mostly in Torquay
« Reply #7 on: Monday 18 April 22 09:28 BST (UK) »
likely death reg for William

William Northcott 71 sept qtr 1884 Newton Abbott vol 5b pg 102

Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb

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Re: William Northcott marr 1839 Ann Venning, Lived Mostly in Torquay
« Reply #8 on: Monday 18 April 22 10:03 BST (UK) »
That address for 1871 is HELE Gasworks, St Marychurch.
William Northcote was buried in Torquay Cemetery on 21st August 1884 aged 71, address given as 5 Church Street.
No Sarah buried there.
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