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Who Is Alice????
« on: Thursday 28 April 22 18:59 BST (UK) »
Hi All

I have been stuck for quite some time on my Dryden Family from Belford, Northumberland. I suspect they are nonconformists. I was lucky recently after having my father do a DNA to finally crack John Dryden b1794 and have now found his parents (at least it seems right and I am DNA linked to at least 2 of his brothers) , although still haven't found a birth or baptism. However, it is John's wife Alice who is the most frustrating. I would just love to be able to have her maiden name to be able to track the line back further.

John and Alice had 4 children that I know of; Isabella bc1814 (my 4 x Gt Grandmother), Elizabeth bc1817, Alice bc1820 and Matilda bc1823.  My assumption is that John & Alice must have married around C1813.

Can anyone help finding their marriage, or the baptism of any of the children. Thanks

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Re: Who Is Alice????
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 28 April 22 20:07 BST (UK) »
Did they wed in Scotland, since Alice seesm to be Scottish?

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Re: Who Is Alice????
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 28 April 22 20:10 BST (UK) »
Younger Alice baptised 1815 by all accounts.

Presbyterian,Warenford,Northumberland,England

Elizabeth 1813
Isabella 1811
Mary ann 1813
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Re: Who Is Alice????
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 28 April 22 20:54 BST (UK) »
According to 1851 census Alice was born Belford, Northumberland as per findagrave as well

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/108649317/alice-dryden

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« Reply #4 on: Thursday 28 April 22 20:56 BST (UK) »
Find-a-grave is all user-submitted, so at best a guide.

1841 CLEARLY states Scotland.

That and the absence of a maiden name for Alice wouldn't inspire my confidence
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Re: Who Is Alice????
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 28 April 22 22:03 BST (UK) »
There is a will of a William Dryden of Belford, proved 15 Oct 1817
Any help with anything?
Wife Isabella
Sons Stephen and John
Daughters Ann and Mary
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-D837-DBH

William Dryden buried 7 Sep 1817, Belford, age 50
Isabella Dryden buried 7 Nov 1817, Belford, age 50 :(

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Re: Who Is Alice????
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 28 April 22 22:42 BST (UK) »
Death, Sep 1851 Tynemouth 25 288
Dryden, Alice       
Age 69 

Newcastle Guardian and Tyne Mercury, 6 Sep 1851
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At Biggs Main, on the 27th ult. aged 69, Alice, wife of Mr. John Dryden.


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Re: Who Is Alice????
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 10 May 22 00:52 BST (UK) »
Did they wed in Scotland, since Alice seesm to be Scottish?

https://www.findmypast.co.uk/transcript?id=GBC/1841/0014511111&expand=true

Thanks for the reply. In answer to your question re being married in Scotland, I really have no idea.

 
There is a will of a William Dryden of Belford, proved 15 Oct 1817
Any help with anything?
Wife Isabella
Sons Stephen and John
Daughters Ann and Mary
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-D837-DBH

William Dryden buried 7 Sep 1817, Belford, age 50
Isabella Dryden buried 7 Nov 1817, Belford, age 50 :(

I am almost 100% positive these are John's parents. I have 4 strong DNA links to the descendants of Stephen Dryden mentioned in the Will.

Find-a-grave is all user-submitted, so at best a guide.

1841 CLEARLY states Scotland.

That and the absence of a maiden name for Alice wouldn't inspire my confidence

Very much my thoughts too. I hate not being able to trace both sides as the Maternal is as important as the paternal in making me who I am. Alice has been one of my Brickwalls for many years.


Thank you to everyone who has replied. It is very much appreciated. I still live in hope

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Re: Who Is Alice????
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 10 May 22 03:23 BST (UK) »
John Dryden b1794 and have now found his parents

However, it is John's wife Alice I would just love to be able to have her maiden name

John and Alice had 4 children that I know of; Isabella bc1814 (my 4 x Gt Grandmother), Elizabeth bc1817, Alice bc1820 and Matilda bc1823.  My assumption is that John & Alice must have married around C1813.

It would have been helpful to know the names of John's parents too as often children were named after their g/parents.

Can you confirm if any of the 4 children were named after John's parents, if so, which?

The remaining names may be a clue to the names of Alice' parents.

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