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Re: In need of advise Census /BDM
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 04 May 22 07:32 BST (UK) »
In 1841 the family are in Bunchuliie, Kilmonivaig.

I would suggest looking at the original image on www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk to see what the name of the place is as Anc* come up with some strange transcriptions.

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Very true.  :)

And yes, I agree that the the Scottish certificates are very affordable (a few wrong ones won’t break the bank for many people).  ;)

Annie and the others should be able to clarify, but the amount of information on Scottish church registers (ie pre 1855) can vary from fairly useful to not much at all. In general, worth the cost I think.


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Re: In need of advise Census /BDM
« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 04 May 22 07:43 BST (UK) »
This is the marriage
John Campbell
Catherine McLachlan
30 May 1833
Ballachulish Argyll

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« Reply #11 on: Wednesday 04 May 22 07:48 BST (UK) »
If you search old parish records and just put in surname Campbell
First parent John
Second Catherine
With a range from 1833/1851 you will find the births for the children
Some born Ballachulish and Kilmonivaig

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« Reply #12 on: Wednesday 04 May 22 08:59 BST (UK) »
I agree Rossini’s I don’t think the Scotlandspeople is expensive at all.

I think the mistake people make is looking up entries randomly before narrowing it down with all the information they have to hand and deducing the best option from the index.

There is a very good entry on the header of the Scotland board called ‘Optimise Scotlands people searches’ it’s worth a read.

Also you can do a preliminary search on one of the free sites to narrow down your parameters.

I wish there was an English equivalent to Scotlandspeople as I get impatient waiting for the certificates to come and the cost. The reality is I just want the accurate information not the document.


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« Reply #13 on: Wednesday 04 May 22 09:24 BST (UK) »
Bunchullie is -or rather was - an isolated croft. Just the sort of place where a shepherd would live, to be near his flocks.

From FreeCEN, which has much better transcriptions, usually done by people who know something about the areas they're transcribing.

1841 census: Bunchuile, Kilmonivaig
John Campbell, shepherd, 40; Catherine, 26; Donald, 9; Angus, 7; Robert, 4; Lachlan, 1.

You would struggle to find anywhere much more remote than this. It's on the first edition of the Ordnance Survey six-inch map as Bunchaolie
See https://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/#zoom=16&lat=57.07451&lon=-5.30199&layers=5&b=1
I think it was mostly submerged when the Loch Quoich dam was built in 1955.
See https://www.geograph.org.uk/snippet/1566

1851 census: Callart, Kilmallie
John Campbell, shepherd, 35; wife Catherine, 34; children Lachlan, 10; Catharine, 6; Christy Ann, 4; Alexander, 2. All born Kilmonivaig except Catherine senior and Lachlan, who were born in Kilmallie.

This is Callert, on the north shore of Loch Leven - quite a busy place by comparison. It's a mile or two west of North Ballachulish.
See https://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/#zoom=16&lat=56.69833&lon=-5.11363&layers=5&b=1&marker=56.69725,-5.11282
Callert House https://www.geograph.org.uk/gridref/NN0960
Callert Cottage https://www.geograph.org.uk/gridref/NN1060
This was the property of Sir Duncan Cameron. It would be reasonable to suppose that he was John Campbell's employer.

It looks as if John's age on at least one of the censuses is incorrect, as he can't have been aged 35 in 1851 if he was aged 40 ten years earlier in 1841.
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Re: In need of advise Census /BDM
« Reply #14 on: Wednesday 04 May 22 09:53 BST (UK) »
If you search old parish records and just put in surname Campbell
First parent John
Second Catherine
With a range from 1833/1851 you will find the births for the children
Some born Ballachulish and Kilmonivaig
Ballachulich was a quoad sacra parish erected in 1833 out of Kilmallie.

What this means is that for the purposes of the church, Ballachulish was a separate parish from 1833, but for civil purposes it remained part of the parish of Kilmallie. This is why the baptisms are recorded in Ballachulish but the census records refer to Kilmallie.

Quoad sacra parishes were erected when there was a significant enough population to warrant setting up a new kirk, and/or the people involved lived far enough away from the main parish kirk to make it an onerous undertaking to attend services there.
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« Reply #15 on: Friday 06 May 22 08:19 BST (UK) »
I see some”sheepfolds” on those maps Forfarian.  :)

Beautiful country.

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Re: In need of advise Census /BDM
« Reply #16 on: Friday 06 May 22 11:17 BST (UK) »
many thanks for very ones assistance which is much appreciated
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« Reply #17 on: Friday 06 May 22 11:46 BST (UK) »
I see some”sheepfolds” on those maps Forfarian.  :)
Yes.

You can just about make out the dyke round the infield at Bunchaolie on the satellite view.

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Beautiful country.
Yes, but I personally wouldn't want to live there in this day and age. 20 miles of single-track to the nearest main road, twice as far to the nearest town, Fort William, and three-and-a-half times as far to Inverness, both via the A82, which passes through magnificent scenery but is a busy road, especially in the summer months.

And as for the climate - it is pretty much the wettest part of Scotland. Then there are of course the midges.
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