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Re: Victorian birth cert 1903 stamped CANCELLED
« Reply #18 on: Wednesday 04 May 22 22:14 BST (UK) »
Mary  Ellen  Scales is Henrietta Scales sister.
Mary Ellen is married to James Randolph sheean
Their Mother Ellen  Scales  was the  midwife in the   area  who delivered all their babies as well   .

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Re: Victorian birth cert 1903 stamped CANCELLED
« Reply #19 on: Wednesday 04 May 22 22:17 BST (UK) »
The top entry on Mary Helens birth cert   was   DIANA JANE PETERSON  nee SCALES  who is the  sister of Henrietta and Mary Ellen Scales .

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Re: Victorian birth cert 1903 stamped CANCELLED
« Reply #20 on: Wednesday 04 May 22 22:22 BST (UK) »
Diana jane Peterson Nee Scales birth of Minnie

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Re: Victorian birth cert 1903 stamped CANCELLED
« Reply #21 on: Thursday 05 May 22 01:17 BST (UK) »
The Vic BDM Registry  are   supplying me with   that   cert    however it has to be mailed out and they wont email it.   But it is def for sale   they were not sure why it flagged it as NFS .

Thank you  so much for  finding that !! I had   tried to  do that particular search and it just would not allow me to do  it.    You have the golden touch    !!  Thank you  for all that  help   im really hoping   it may be connected in some way to this story .


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Re: Victorian birth cert 1903 stamped CANCELLED
« Reply #22 on: Thursday 05 May 22 02:43 BST (UK) »

Is  it SEALS  or  any chance its SCALES


They have just indexed the name as SEALES.  You can see from the certificate that you have posted that the surname could be read as SCALES or SEALES.


Mary Helens own birth cert  1889  has an unusual  change written  by the Registry 
She was   born 25/12/1889   Reg in feb 1890  and in June  the   Registry has written   in the middle of the record
" Brother in eighth  column should read uncle"  So what triggered that . ?


It is not unusual.  The relationship of the informant should always be to the baby, not the parents.  When asking the question, the registrar probably didn't specifically say 'to the baby' and he has just said 'brother' because he was registering the birth on his sister's behalf.

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Re: Victorian birth cert 1903 stamped CANCELLED
« Reply #23 on: Thursday 05 May 22 02:53 BST (UK) »

I   see no purchase available  on your post.     Have you seen  that  before .


The next amendment was 80006/1908 and was for a 1908 birth registered in 1989.  It is also 'no purchase is available'.  The Vic Registry has compiled their online indexes differently to the old microfiche indexes. 

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Re: Victorian birth cert 1903 stamped CANCELLED
« Reply #24 on: Thursday 05 May 22 04:45 BST (UK) »
It is my understanding, on a birth cert. where the child is named, below will state either 'Present' or 'Not Present'...

This is in relation to the person who is registering the birth i.e. they were either present or they were not when the child was born.

Annie

ADD...I didn't look closely at the images you posted simply because there are no headings for the columns which is what makes sense in reading such documents!
South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, Cumming, MacPhee

"OLD GENEALOGISTS NEVER DIE - THEY JUST LOSE THEIR CENSUS"

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Re: Victorian birth cert 1903 stamped CANCELLED
« Reply #25 on: Thursday 05 May 22 05:09 BST (UK) »
Is  it SEALS  or  any chance its SCALES

They have just indexed the name as SEALES.  You can see from the certificate that you have posted that the surname could be read as SCALES or SEALES.


Mary Helens own birth cert  1889  has an unusual  change written  by the Registry 
She was   born 25/12/1889   Reg in feb 1890  and in June  the   Registry has written   in the middle of the record
" Brother in eighth  column should read uncle"  So what triggered that . ?

It is not unusual.  The relationship of the informant should always be to the baby, not the parents.  When asking the question, the registrar probably didn't specifically say 'to the baby' and he has just said 'brother' because he was registering the birth on his sister's behalf.

Debra  :)

I agree with both statements by Debra.

Indexing errors are something which happens often.

If there's an indexing problem on SP (scotlandspeople), we can report it online & if it's obvious enough they will rectify it.

Annie
South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, Cumming, MacPhee

"OLD GENEALOGISTS NEVER DIE - THEY JUST LOSE THEIR CENSUS"

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Re: Victorian birth cert 1903 stamped CANCELLED
« Reply #26 on: Thursday 05 May 22 06:19 BST (UK) »


This sounds familiar...and Mary Ellen went back to visit the school.... at Wagga?.....when?...what year please?