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Re: John Valente
« Reply #27 on: Friday 06 May 22 16:11 BST (UK) »

Births of Joseph F. 1919 + the younger daughters mentioned in previous posts were registered in East Manchester sub-district. Possibly 2 more daughters registered E. Manchester 1921 & 1924.

Source: Lancashire BMD

Having now checked on GRO, 1921 birth doesn't belong.
1921 birth has mother's surname Brown GRO Ref. S quarter Manchester Volume 08D page 418
1924 birth registration, no mother's maiden surname in GRO index M quarter Manchester Volume 08D p406
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Re: John Valente
« Reply #28 on: Friday 06 May 22 16:23 BST (UK) »
Another Valente birth, mother's maiden surname Taylor.
1914 Anthony registered Ancoats sub-district


Death registration.
1914 VALENTI Anthony age 0 GRO ref. M quarter Prestwich volume 08D page 373
Death registration index on Lancashire BMD shows Cheetham as sub-district.

I make that 8 children for John Valente & Margaret. 
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Re: John Valente
« Reply #29 on: Friday 06 May 22 16:38 BST (UK) »

Births of Joseph F. 1919 + the younger daughters mentioned in previous posts were registered in East Manchester sub-district. Possibly 2 more daughters registered E. Manchester 1921 & 1924.

Source: Lancashire BMD

Having now checked on GRO, 1921 birth doesn't belong.
1921 birth has mother's surname Brown GRO Ref. S quarter Manchester Volume 08D page 418


Baptism St. Ann's Ancoats, 1921, parents James/Jacobi & Ada. Parents married 1921.
Perhaps a granddaughter of Anthony Valente.
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Re: John Valente
« Reply #30 on: Monday 09 May 22 21:22 BST (UK) »
Hi All
         I now got the Marriage Certificate of Mary Valente to Harold Ellis with fathers name as John Valente of 39 Cheetham Street Chorlton with Sons Joseph born 18/4/19, Kathleen hodson nee Valente 10/8/23, Margaret Pridding Nee Valente 30/5/1930, Teresa Mcviegh Nee valente
Mary would not have been at the address and she was living with Harold

I have the marrige certifiate of Johann Valente to margaret Taylor 23 March 1911 with Johann Father as Houorio Valente dead by 1911 and Margaret as Joseph Taylor address is 89 Jersey Street Ancoats

and John valente and Annie Valente 135 Jersey Street Ancoats


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Re: John Valente
« Reply #31 on: Tuesday 10 May 22 00:44 BST (UK) »

         I now got the Marriage Certificate of Mary Valente to Harold Ellis with fathers name as John Valente of 39 Cheetham Street Chorlton
Mary would not have been at the address and she was living with Harold

I have the marrige certifiate of Johann Valente to margaret Taylor 23 March 1911 with Johann Father as Houorio Valente dead by 1911 and Margaret as Joseph Taylor address is 89 Jersey Street Ancoats

and John valente and Annie Valente 135 Jersey Street Ancoats


What ages did John and Margaret say they were when they married? Who were witnesses?
I think "Houorio" should be Henrico. John's father in the church marriage register in 1921 is Henrico (Henry).

Can you clarify who was living at which address?
39 Cheetham Street, Chorlton
89 Jersey Street, Ancoats
135 Jersey Street, Ancoats
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Re: John Valente
« Reply #32 on: Tuesday 10 May 22 15:01 BST (UK) »
Hi
   in the 1911 Census I have living at 135 Jersey Street Ancoats I have John Valente and Annie Taylor
I got the Address on the Marriage Certificate I ordered for Johann Velente I have Margaret Taylors address as 135 Jersey street Ancoats marriage and Census both in 1911 and John Velente Living at 89 Jersey Street Ancoats

John Valente Daughter Mary married Harold Ellis in 1939 the father was listed as John Valente registered at 39 Cheetham Street address listed in the marriage certificate and Census with his name change from John to Gioranni but i thinks thats Giovanni most likely due to his Italian accent

on the Marriage Certifiate of Johann Valente and Margaret Taylor their is just a x could NOT spell his name Johann father is listed as Houorio deceased in 1911 marriage

John Valente is registered at 89 Jersey Street and Margaret Taylor registered at 135 Jersey Street Ancoats

but in the 1911 Census registeed at the address is John Valente and Annie Taylor as in Margaret Anne Taylor

the next bit is the Polosi family have John Valente married in Glasgow to Nancy Polosi and linked to john valente at 135 Jersey Street and in the 1901 Census Nancey is 15 living at 3 Jersey Street Ancoats but married at portugal street glasgow 1905 dont know how this fits in as john fathewr there is listed as Raffaelo SO EITHER THIS LINK IS FALSE OR jOHN AND mARGARET LIED MAYBE BECAUSE HE WAS STILL MARRIED ??????

also 2 years difference on age listed in marriage cert and census

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Re: John Valente
« Reply #33 on: Tuesday 10 May 22 15:22 BST (UK) »
“the next bit is the Polosi family have John Valente married in Glasgow to Nancy Polosi and linked to john valente at 135 Jersey Street and in the 1901 Census Nancey is 15 living at 3 Jersey Street Ancoats but married at portugal street glasgow 1905 dont know how this fits in as john fathewr there is listed as Raffaelo SO EITHER THIS LINK IS FALSE OR jOHN AND mARGARET LIED MAYBE BECAUSE HE WAS STILL MARRIED ??????


There is a published tree which shows this couple in 1911. You have John Valente with Annie in 1911.
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Re: John Valente
« Reply #34 on: Tuesday 10 May 22 15:29 BST (UK) »

         I now got the Marriage Certificate of Mary Valente to Harold Ellis with fathers name as John Valente of 39 Cheetham Street Chorlton
Mary would not have been at the address and she was living with Harold

I have the marrige certifiate of Johann Valente to margaret Taylor 23 March 1911 with Johann Father as Houorio Valente dead by 1911 and Margaret as Joseph Taylor address is 89 Jersey Street Ancoats

and John valente and Annie Valente 135 Jersey Street Ancoats


What ages did John and Margaret say they were when they married? Who were witnesses?
I think "Houorio" should be Henrico. John's father in the church marriage register in 1921 is Henrico (Henry).

Can you clarify who was living at which address?
39 Cheetham Street, Chorlton - John Valente and Margaret Valente on wedding cert of mary valente and 1939 census
89 Jersey Street, Ancoats - johann Valente on marriage cert
135 Jersey Street, Ancoats - Johann Valente on marriage cert and margaret taylor on marriage cert but annie Valente and john Valente on 1911 census

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Re: John Valente
« Reply #35 on: Tuesday 10 May 22 15:31 BST (UK) »
“the next bit is the Polosi family have John Valente married in Glasgow to Nancy Polosi and linked to john valente at 135 Jersey Street and in the 1901 Census Nancey is 15 living at 3 Jersey Street Ancoats but married at portugal street glasgow 1905 dont know how this fits in as john fathewr there is listed as Raffaelo SO EITHER THIS LINK IS FALSE OR jOHN AND mARGARET LIED MAYBE BECAUSE HE WAS STILL MARRIED ??????


There is a published tree which shows this couple in 1911. You have John Valente with Annie in 1911.

yes i have that but the polosi family have a link to john but this look like they lived on the same street and the age is the same cant find anything on this man like father