Stuck and Need help on 2nd great grandparents, Thomas Johnson and Fanny Wilmot

[Jason Jase]

As for Amy Wilmot
I would like to see if she got married

Between 1881 onward the BMD has 5 Amy Wilmot marriages but these three are the most likely if she did get married



Marriages Jun 1893 
Wilmot    Amy        Bedford    3b   677    

Marriages Dec 1898   
Wilmot    Amy        Fulham    1a   434    

Marriages Sep 1901 
WILMOT    Amy        Gainsbro'    7a   1587   

[mckha489]

As for Amy Wilmot
I would like to see if she got married

Marriages Dec 1898   
Wilmot    Amy        Fulham    1a   434    

Age 28, so birth abt 1870
Father named as Samuel Wilmot a joiner, witnesses Eliza & George William VALLANCE

The other two seem unlikely,

If she married, she may well have married as Williams.

More to the point.  When did Margeret Wilmot/Williams die? Blowed if I can identify her death

[Jason Jase]

The daughters could have married under the name Willams, Wilmot / Wilmott or even Jones (Who should be their fathers last name) or just made up another name.


My 2 x great grandmother is more or less complete and married under her Wilmot name in her 1st marriage and had 4 partners in total.

So I don't know who or if
Hellen and Margaret (jr) or Alice married?

I think this Alice Died in 1870 too young to be married.

What happed to Hellen after the 1871 census?
What happened to Margaret (jr) after 1861?

When
Margaret (snr) Died?
 
no perfect death match to her last name Wilmot
 
 two close ones though
Deaths Mar 1897   Wilmot    Margaret    77    Nantwich    8a   251   born in 1820
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Deaths Mar 1898   Wilmot    Margaret    78    Kensington    1a   158 born in 1820
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close to 6000 Marget Williams Deaths so if she died under that name who knows???
in Bristal these are the most likely deaths under the William Name (she was morn in 1824)

Deaths Dec 1886   Williams    Margaret   age 61    Bristol    6a   41   born  1825
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Deaths Dec 1904 Williams    Margaret    age 78    Bristol    6a   160   born  1826
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Deaths Sep 1905  Williams    Margaret    79    Bristol    6a   53     born 1826
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Deaths Mar 1912   Williams    Margaret    87    Bristol    6a   153  born 1825

[mckha489]

Ellen & Alice still alive in 1875, as Wilmot and unmarried.

Stroud News and Gloucestershire Advertiser 29 January 1875

Concert - On Tuesday evening a concert was given by Mr Alfred Vowles at the Hall. The programme which was a carefully selected one, was carried out in a manner that did credit to the ability of those ladies and gentlemen who took part in the vocal selctons; and the instrumental music was so skilfully rendered that it received from the hands of the appreciative audience present as much encouragement as the other items.
The programme opened with an organ overture by Mr. W. H. Cox. A trio “The Daisy’ was charmingly rendered by Miss Alice Wilmot, Mrs Alfred Vowles and Mr Theodore Hook. Miss Ellen Wilmot sang the serenade, “Star of my Night” with much sweetness and was loudly applauded. In the duet “Oh, Albion”  Mr Theodore Hook and Mr Bevan narrowly escaped an encore. Mrs Alfred Vowles sang “Pack clouds away” in a very superior manner, and was ably accompanied with clarionet obligate by Mr W.H.Cox. The duet “ I heard a voice in the tranquil night”  was sang charmingly by the Misses Alice and Ellen Wilmot…..


another concert with the same cast (without W.H.Cox) later that year
27 April 1875 - Western Daily Press - Bristol, Bristol, England

Ellen/Helen & Alice were both alive in April 1875 using the name WILMOT
Alice is not the 1870 death.

[Jason Jase]

ok, I keep on getting tripped up by this death reg. It is the same first middle and last name Alice was baptized under. Also same birth year

Alice Mary Willmott
Death Date   Jun 1870
Inferred Death Place   Gloucestershire, United Kingdom
Volume   6a
Page   63

I guess it is a different person

[heywood]

Birth 1857 Clifton
Alice Mary Willmott mmn Morgan

[Jason Jase]

I got on the newspaper site and found another concert that Ellen, Alice and William did 

Western Daily Press
27 Apr 1875, Tue ·Page 3

[Neale1961]

I got on the newspaper site and found another concert that Ellen, Alice and William did 

Western Daily Press
27 Apr 1875, Tue ·Page 3

Yes, this concert has already been posted.

[Neale1961]

Margaret born 15 July 1859
Appears in 1861 census but not in 1871 census

As previously suggested - a possible death – you would need to purchase death certificate to know.
Age does not seem quite right.

WILLIAMS, MARGARET       Age 13 
GRO Reference: 1869  J Quarter in BRISTOL  Volume 06A  Page 35

Non-conformist Burial - May 1869 - in Lewins Mead Burial Ground (Brunswick square)