Author Topic: Stuck and Need help on 2nd great grandparents, Thomas Johnson and Fanny Wilmot  (Read 13260 times)

Offline Neale1961

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That is great thank you thank you. Someone else had found her fathers name as Edward but nothing else so this is great that you found this

I suspect the name "Edward" for her father may an invention on her part. On her first marriage to VOWLES, she has no father recorded. Her baptism suggests she was illegitimate.
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Thomas Johnson...married 14 Jan 1877...Fanny Wilmot

Do you have the 1877 marriage record? What are their fathers' names and occupations?

I see Ruby's baptism in Manchester:

Birth 1877
Baptised 23 Nov 1878
Parents Thomas & Fanny Johnson

I had a Banns of sorts that looked a lot different than the other Banns I have seen it luckily some very smart people found the information I was looking for

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Fanny Wilmot (b1851) from Bristol married Alfred William Vowles, a Professor of Music in Bristol on 7 July 1871.  Alfred William Vowles filed for divorce in 1876 on the grounds of adultery by Fanny and the co-respondent was named as Thomas Johnson.  On her marriage to Alfred, there is no father named on her marriage certificate. Alfred and Fanny  had two sons, Lewis and Julian. Decree Nisi 7 November 1876. Same lady or just huge coincidence!

well I didn't expect that I am going to put it on my family tree as unverified until I find more on that.... that is is a good find...

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There is a Fanny Wilmot on 1861 census in a boarding school in Bristol.  Her age doesn't quite fit, so it may not be her. Could it possibly be that the late baptism was due to her getting a place at the school and being required to be baptised? just a thought

What was the boarding school name, where did you find that?  :)


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1861 census

How about

Bristol St James 14/16/1721/97/3

Margaret WILLIAMS Head dittoed from 2 people above Unmarried 28, b Portishead. (Age should be 35, sorry)
with daughters
Fanny  10 b Bristol
Ellen (could be the Helen baptised) 7. b Bristol
Alice Mary 5 b Bristol
Margaret 2 b Bristol

And a servant Louisa Redpath 21 b St Georges

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Thomas JOHNSON

1851 census for Thomas Johnson (and family)
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:SG1M-R31

1861 census for Thomas Johnson (and family)
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M76S-CCZ

1871 census. Thomas Johnson senior had died and his widow had married George Dixon
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M76S-CCZ
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1861 census
Bristol St James 14/16/1721/97/3

Margaret WILLIAMS Head dittoed from 2 people above Unmarried 28, b Portishead
with daughters
Fanny  10 b Bristol
Ellen (could be the Helen baptised) 7. b Bristol
Alice Mary 5 b Bristol
Margaret 2 b Bristol
Excellent Work! mckha489
link here
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M7VZ-PSQ
Milligan - Jardine – Glencross – Dinwoodie - Brown: (Dumfriesshire & Kirkcudbrightshire)
Clark – Faulds – Cuthbertson – Bryson – Wilson: (Ayrshire & Renfrewshire)
Neale – Cater – Kinder - Harrison: (Warwickshire & Queensland)
Roberts - Spry: (Cornwall, Middlesex & Queensland)
Munster: (Schleswig-Holstein & Queensland) and Plate: (Braunschweig, Neubruck & Queensland & New York)

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1851

and in 1851

20 Harford St, Bedminster Bristol

Mar’t WILLIAMS wife Married, 28 , husband traveller out employ.   b Bristol
Fanny dau 2 mths. b Bristol
Ann Williams Sister, 24, Dress Maker, b Portishead, Somerset

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I cannot find birth registrations for the 3 daughters under the surname Wilmot
But this one might be for the third daughter who died in 1870

WILLMOTT, ALICE  MARY           Mothers name - MORGAN 
GRO Reference: 1857  M Quarter in CLIFTON  Volume 06A  Page 76

Also, I cannot find any of those young Wilmot girls in the 1860 census - so are they using another surname?

1861 1729 /69/26
Alice Mary Willmott with parents Henry Geo and Cecilia M.
Herbert H 6 yrs
Both children mmn Morgan.
1871 - no Alice Mary.
I would think she is the one who died in 1870.
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