Stuck and Need help on 2nd great grandparents, Thomas Johnson and Fanny Wilmot

[mckha489]

From Amy Williams in the 1871 posted earlier
I wonder if this is her birth


WILMOT, AMY  LARA     mothers maiden name JONES 
GRO Reference: 1866  J Quarter in CLIFTON  Volume 06A  Page 84

Which does sort of tie in with the potential Fanny birth reg found earlier.  In reply # 8

[Jason Jase]

Are you seeing that on a tree? 

the marriage certificate has no Agnes.
the divorce papers have no Agnes
the baptisms of Lewis and Julian have no Agnes


Alfred married a second time 22 June 1878 to Ellen Williams

***Thanks for that ****

Trees have not followed this through properly. 
It is why we are always saying don't believe anything until you can work through the documentation yourself!

>>> Very good point >>>> I try to do that but can't always find the needed documents. I notice something isn't right rather easily sometimes though....

added

but Agnes Fanny must have been a widow. Haven't found original cert yet.
but here is birth of Purcell

VOWLES, PURCELL  JOSEPH     Mother's Maiden name  MESSER 
GRO Reference: 1880  S Quarter in BARTON REGIS  Volume 06A  Page 172

[Neale1961]

It is confusing, but the 4 girls (Fanny, Helen, Alice and Margaret) appear to have been daughters of Margaret WILLIAMS. That is how they appear in the census records for 1851 and 1861 and 71.
When she baptised them there were given the surname WILMOT.

Another child was born to Margaret in 1867 -  Amy Williams
.
It is not clear where the WILMOT name comes from at this stage.

[mckha489]

Alfred married a second time 22 June 1878 to Ellen Williams. this is not what I posted his second wife was, as I said Agnes Fanny HART

[Neale1961]

Can I suggest that Jason takes the time to read back through the thread and note carefully all the information that has been posted.
It may be confusing as lots of information has come through quickly.
I would also recommend Jason discontinue using the quote button (simply use REPLY). Using the quote function helps to create confusion and makes the thread difficult to follow.

(I will refrain from posting more information until Jason has had time to take in all the current detail.)

[Jason Jase]

yes Agnes Fanny HART that's right

[mckha489]

1881
49 Thistle Grove, Kensington

Margaret Williams widow 56 annuitant b Portishead
Amy Williams 14 b Bristol

[Cas (stallc)]

Not to muddy the waters further, but there is a bapt that could tie Margaret to the Wilmot name. Just a possibility?

Margaret Wilmot
Baptism Date:   1 Jan 1824
Baptism Place:   Weston In Gordano, Somerset (covers the  Portishead, area)
Father:   William Wilmot - yeoman
Mother:   Elizabeth Wilmot

Also one for Ann in 1827 (sister in 1851) same parents

Cas

[Jason Jase]

Okay I read back through it all, sorry if I caused some confusion.

I somehow got Edward Wilmot as the father of Fanny and the other three William Girls, I'm not sure how I got that.