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Scotland's People - Service Returns Death Cert.
« on: Monday 09 May 22 16:45 BST (UK) »
Wondering what type of info I can get from a death certificate labeled Service Returns.  The person I am researching is named John Hay, and I have a date range of death, but not a positive date.  I am seeing quite a few death certificates labeled Service Returns, but I don't want to spend credits to view if I will not receive any concrete info.  These don't seem to list the mother's maiden name to narrow down the search.  Will there be birth date /place info listed in this document?

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Re: Scotland's People - Service Returns Death Cert.
« Reply #1 on: Monday 09 May 22 16:59 BST (UK) »
It has been a while since I looked at one but if I remember rightly it is basically just a list of names with their rank and date of death. Not enough information for you to be absolutely certain that it is the person you are looking for. I may be wrong and I am certain someone will say if I am.  ;D

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Re: Scotland's People - Service Returns Death Cert.
« Reply #2 on: Monday 09 May 22 17:05 BST (UK) »
Slightly more information (but not much  ::) )

This is what you get


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Re: Scotland's People - Service Returns Death Cert.
« Reply #3 on: Monday 09 May 22 17:08 BST (UK) »
Thanks for the info.  Unfortunately, not really enough to be able to narrow my search.


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Re: Scotland's People - Service Returns Death Cert.
« Reply #4 on: Monday 09 May 22 18:01 BST (UK) »
Have you tried the CWGC website - they sometimes give more information regarding parents or next of kin

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Re: Scotland's People - Service Returns Death Cert.
« Reply #5 on: Monday 09 May 22 18:12 BST (UK) »
Do you know where in Scotland he lived ? as you might be able to trace him on census records ..Have you also looked for a will for John

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Re: Scotland's People - Service Returns Death Cert.
« Reply #6 on: Monday 09 May 22 19:29 BST (UK) »
Here is all the info that I have:

Born:  1889 Ecclesmachan, West Lothian - Parents James & Helen (Eaton) Hay.  In 1891 census - aged 2 lived at Threemiletown, West Lothian, 1901 census aged 12, lived at Shirvadyke, Kirkintilloch.  I know these are correct.  In 1910, parents and some younger siblings emigrated to Australia, as far as I know, John did not go with them at the time or later.  Father James died in Australia in 1935 and listed on Death Cert as having 2 sons predecease him.  His son James died in 1905 in Scotland, and I have confirmation that all other sons were all alive after 1935, with the exception of John.  I have no further info on John Eaton Hay, but based on his age, I am wondering if he may have been in WW1 and died then, which is why I was questioning the Service Remains info.  It is only a guess.  If anyone can help with any additional info I would be appreciative.

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Re: Scotland's People - Service Returns Death Cert.
« Reply #7 on: Monday 09 May 22 22:18 BST (UK) »
As already suggested, if he died during the first world war he should be on the Commonwealth War Graves Commission web site https://www.cwgc.org/ - it has a dozen records of John Hays, none with a middle name, but one of them could be yours.
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Re: Scotland's People - Service Returns Death Cert.
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 10 May 22 01:56 BST (UK) »
Have you searched for a marriage 1901 - 1910 (a good reason not to emigrate with the others) & have you checked the 1911 census for a possible match?

Deaths in the 1900s prior to 1974 seldom give mms.

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