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Re: Scotland's People - Service Returns Death Cert.
« Reply #27 on: Tuesday 10 May 22 20:19 BST (UK) »
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I know you say that you do not think he went to Australia but you should consider the possibility he did. If he followed his father before 1914 he may have come back almost straight away as part of the Australian Army possibly to Gallipoli. Their records unlike ours are intact and I believe it possible to search them online although I don't know how. It is worth a try to cover all bases.

There is a surviving Australian WW1 service record for a John Hay, born in Edinburgh, Scotland, aged 25 years and 10 months on attesting in September 1914, so born 1888/89. Next of kin is given as brother Alexander, and then a Miss M A Hay, who is his sister.

I have seen this record, but it is not him.  No brother Alexander.

https://recordsearch.naa.gov.au/SearchNRetrieve/Interface/ViewImage.aspx?B=4769148

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Re: Scotland's People - Service Returns Death Cert.
« Reply #28 on: Tuesday 10 May 22 21:26 BST (UK) »
He had 3 elder sisters who also stayed in Scotland, and were married by this time.  2 were living in Govan and 1 in Kilsyth.  Agnes Russell (Hay),  Helen Donaldson (Hay), and Mary Jo Anderson (Hay).

Have you checked this death...

HAY JOHN 61 - 1951 - 644/17 910 Govan

Annie
South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, Cumming, MacPhee

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Re: Scotland's People - Service Returns Death Cert.
« Reply #29 on: Wednesday 11 May 22 13:50 BST (UK) »
He had 3 elder sisters who also stayed in Scotland, and were married by this time.  2 were living in Govan and 1 in Kilsyth.  Agnes Russell (Hay),  Helen Donaldson (Hay), and Mary Jo Anderson (Hay).

Have you checked this death...

HAY JOHN 61 - 1951 - 644/17 910 Govan

Annie

Unfortunately, this is not him  :(

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Re: Scotland's People - Service Returns Death Cert.
« Reply #30 on: Wednesday 11 May 22 14:09 BST (UK) »
If you have not done it already I would look to see who the witnesses at the marriages of his sisters were, and a slightly longer shot see who registered the deaths of them and their spouses in case it was John.


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Re: Scotland's People - Service Returns Death Cert.
« Reply #31 on: Wednesday 11 May 22 14:56 BST (UK) »
If you have not done it already I would look to see who the witnesses at the marriages of his sisters were, and a slightly longer shot see who registered the deaths of them and their spouses in case it was John.

I have this info for one of the sisters (Agnes Russell) who was my gr. grandmother.  John was not a witness to her marriage, or an informant on either her death or her husbands.  Thanks for the suggestion