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Edward Bornick Smith
« on: Thursday 12 May 22 16:16 BST (UK) »
I have Edward  born 1817 in Sculcoates. Father William b 1791 and mother Margaret b1793. I believe she may have been born in Stockton, but I have no idea who her parents were, although my contact for this info suggested perhaps Edward Bornick-Elizabeth Habersham (Hull).
Unfortunately my contact has died and I now have no other way of trying to verify his suggested links.
Can anyone please help
Thanks
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Re: Edward Bornick Smith
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 12 May 22 22:18 BST (UK) »
Common sense suggests that if your friend came up with this theory,  then there should be some evidence on which this theory was based.

Freereg, familysearch.org  etc, subscription sites?

Baptism record has also been transcribed as Edward Borwick Smith, so consider searching for that surname too

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Re: Edward Bornick Smith
« Reply #2 on: Friday 13 May 22 01:42 BST (UK) »
How do you know that Margaret was born in 1793, and William born in 1791?
Have you found them in the census? Where and when?
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Re: Edward Bornick Smith
« Reply #3 on: Friday 13 May 22 23:55 BST (UK) »
They liked a double name…
1823 John Ward Smith, s/o William & Margaret, Spring Row, joiner
1826 Ann Elizabeth Smith, d/o William & Margaret, Spring Row, joiner


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Re: Edward Bornick Smith
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 14 May 22 00:18 BST (UK) »
And William, baptised 25 Jun 1815, Hull, s/o William & Margaret Smith, a joiner, of Bishops Lane.
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Re: Edward Bornick Smith
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 14 May 22 08:59 BST (UK) »
1851 in Gateshead, Durham we have;
Willm Smith   60 Head Mar Joiner*** born County York Hull
Margaret Smith   58 Wife Mar born Stockton on Tees, Durham
Sarah A Smith   22 Daug at home born Scarbourn, Yorkshire
Caroline Smith   3 mths Granddaughter born Gateshead
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Re: Edward Bornick Smith
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 14 May 22 09:14 BST (UK) »
1841 in Gateshead, Durham;
William Smith   50 Joiner
Margret Smith   45
Edward Smith   20
John Smith   13
Sarah Smith   12
All NOT born in County
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Re: Edward Bornick Smith
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 14 May 22 10:04 BST (UK) »
1861 at same address;
William Smith   70 Widower Carpenter born Hull
Sarah Smith   38 Daug Unm Dress Maker born Gatehead
Caroline Smith   10 Granddaughter Scholar born Hull (mistake there I think with Sarah/Carolines pob)
+ 2 lodgers

Sarah is still unm in 1871 but down as born Gateshead.

Likely Death Regs GRO;

SMITH, MARGARET age 68 
GRO Reference: 1859  D Quarter in GATESHEAD  Volume 10A  Page 303

SMITH, WILLIAM age    72 
GRO Reference: 1862  J Quarter in GATESHEAD  Volume 10A  Page 306
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Re: Edward Bornick Smith
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 14 May 22 10:05 BST (UK) »
I now have a more complete picture, thanks to all for your input; the closest I have yet to get to a final, definitive solution.

One of the difficulties for the transcribers of old records is getting the names absolutly correct.. But as we all well know there will always be a mistranscription somewhere.

This has been the case for BORNICK. shown variously as BORNICK, BONNICK, BORWICK and BENNICK.

In my friend's notes he had  Edward Bornick m Elizabeth Habersham. I eventually traced this to Edward Bonnick and Elizabeth Habersham married at Beverley Yorks in 1766. They had 2 children Caroline and John. Caroline married a Wiliam Smith in Hull March 1789 and subsequently had a son William b 1791.
With regard to William's wife Margaret I can only find one potential link to Margaret Davis (Davies) in Stockton.

The interesting facets of these links is the traditional carrying forward on family names. Edward Bornick Smith , who named one of his sons Davis and Caroline, grand daughter of William Smith (his mother's name)
Thanks again for you guidance.
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