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« on: Friday 03 June 22 07:12 BST (UK) »
(Dear moderator, I realise that I should have put the local question in the Cheshire forum, so I will post it there. Please remove from here if you think it's inappropriate.)

Trying to help someone identify the birth mother of their grandmother, Marjorie Crowe, born in 1905 to one Eleanor Crowe and later adopted. DNA suggests it might be a certain Sarah Eleanor Crowe, who would actually be my half 1st cousin one removed. However, I need to find some firmer evidence for or against this theory. Marjorie's birth and Christening certificates show that her mother was living in Back Sea View in Hoylake cum West Kirby at the time.

Given that Marjorie was born in 1905, which is in between the 1901 and 1911 censuses, does anyone have any suggestion as to any other records that might shed light on this research?
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Re: Adoption search
« Reply #1 on: Friday 03 June 22 09:23 BST (UK) »
I am pretty sure the Liverpool Post would have been available in Hoylake, but I am only assuming it was published in 1905 - which seems probable to me.  The L-P was certainly available in Runcorn 50 years ago.  Possibly also the Echo.
( O-P seems to have modified the earlier text )
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« Reply #2 on: Friday 03 June 22 09:26 BST (UK) »
What date and place do you have for the birth, 1905?

What date and place do you have for the registration of the birth?

Who registered the birth?

What date and place, (the Church), do you have for the christening?


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« Reply #3 on: Friday 03 June 22 10:29 BST (UK) »
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« Reply #4 on: Friday 03 June 22 13:49 BST (UK) »
Apologies ShaunJ for the duplicate post.

Thank you very much, Andrew, for your suggestion. I will look into that.

Thank you wivenhoe. My question was mainly about what publication this would have been advertised in and any suggestions as to other places to look. I was not seeking to bother anyone at the moment with lookups, if that's what you mean.
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« Reply #5 on: Friday 03 June 22 22:21 BST (UK) »
Don't worry moderator s can merge posts if you request using the report button.

I always recommend requesting a local records office search to see if an affiliation order was in place

Oops no that ibe done by date if you don't know  birth name ??

They are notoriously hard to find anyway so worth paying a couple of hours for the records office staff to search
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« Reply #6 on: Friday 03 June 22 23:44 BST (UK) »
Just to mention that on the original baptism record the parents' names were first written as Thomas and Eleanor, but the "Thomas and" bit was struck through.
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« Reply #7 on: Saturday 04 June 22 00:17 BST (UK) »

Census 1911, 13 Back Sea View Hoylake Cheshire, a residence of four rooms -

WEBSTER family of William, 33y b. Liverpool, wife Minnie Ellen, 33y b. Liverpool....and four children.

13 Back Sea View is not a birthing centre with a local midwife.

Elanor CROWE knows the people who live there in 1905.

At Census 1901 family at 13 Back Sea View is JONES, Peter, 50y, b. Hoylake, Mary Jane, 45y, b. Birkenhead.........

I suspect that people spent a short time between houses.

When and where was baby baptised?. What is on the baptism record....everything?

If baptism was some time after birth you might think that Eleanor had hopes of keeping her baby?

And Eleanor is still living with ......who?....at 13 Back Sea View when baby is baptised.

The notice in the paper is a story, like so many used with family history....maybe true, maybe not.