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WW1 Medal Translation help again please.?
« on: Saturday 04 June 22 15:17 BST (UK) »


Pte 51561 Abraham Goldstone 17th Pals

Were his Medals Returned unclaimed ? or for Amendment?






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Re: WW1 Medal Translation help again please.?
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 05 June 22 10:55 BST (UK) »
Returned unclaimed.
You can see a couple of entries above the KR is for adjustment including
the CRV (return voucher).
Warks:Ashford;Cadby;Clarke;Clifford;Cooke Copage;Easthope;
Edmonds;Felton;Colledge;Lutwyche;Mander(s);May;Poole;Withers.
Staffs.Edmonds;Addison;Duffield;Webb;Fisher;Archer
Salop:Easthope,Eddowes,Hoorde,Oteley,Vernon,Talbot,De Neville.
Notts.Clarke;Redfearne;Treece.
Som.May;Perriman;Cox
India Kane;Felton;Cadby
London.Haysom.
Lancs.Gay.
Worcs.Coley;Mander;Sawyer.
Kings of Wessex & Scotland
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Re: WW1 Medal Translation help again please.?
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 05 June 22 11:11 BST (UK) »
Thought so Jim1

This Soldier has stumped me on our Roll of Honour
Age Unknown born in Canada
Cousin claimed Soldiers Effects
That's All we know
Have provided with Age and Biography for1,125 so far on Roll, till him.
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Re: WW1 Medal Translation help again please.?
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 05 June 22 11:18 BST (UK) »
Have you tried the 1911 Canada Census.
Warks:Ashford;Cadby;Clarke;Clifford;Cooke Copage;Easthope;
Edmonds;Felton;Colledge;Lutwyche;Mander(s);May;Poole;Withers.
Staffs.Edmonds;Addison;Duffield;Webb;Fisher;Archer
Salop:Easthope,Eddowes,Hoorde,Oteley,Vernon,Talbot,De Neville.
Notts.Clarke;Redfearne;Treece.
Som.May;Perriman;Cox
India Kane;Felton;Cadby
London.Haysom.
Lancs.Gay.
Worcs.Coley;Mander;Sawyer.
Kings of Wessex & Scotland
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Re: WW1 Medal Translation help again please.?
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 07 June 22 09:18 BST (UK) »
Cheers Jim1 no Luck

This is all we know on him so far.

https://www.liverpoolpals.com/soldier/?i=923/51561-Pte-abraham-goldstone
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Re: WW1 Medal Translation help again please.?
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 07 June 22 09:33 BST (UK) »
What about the two cousins Bessie Goldwater and Mrs Rosie Goldwater ?

There's a Bessie Goldwater in the censuses in Liverpool, born Germany circa 1868. Looks like her maiden name was Goldstein.
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« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 07 June 22 10:52 BST (UK) »
Possibly changed his name to sound more "English".
Warks:Ashford;Cadby;Clarke;Clifford;Cooke Copage;Easthope;
Edmonds;Felton;Colledge;Lutwyche;Mander(s);May;Poole;Withers.
Staffs.Edmonds;Addison;Duffield;Webb;Fisher;Archer
Salop:Easthope,Eddowes,Hoorde,Oteley,Vernon,Talbot,De Neville.
Notts.Clarke;Redfearne;Treece.
Som.May;Perriman;Cox
India Kane;Felton;Cadby
London.Haysom.
Lancs.Gay.
Worcs.Coley;Mander;Sawyer.
Kings of Wessex & Scotland
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« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 07 June 22 11:01 BST (UK) »
Ancestry public tree for Rosa Goldwater, mother Bessie nee Goldstone:

https://www.ancestry.co.uk/family-tree/person/tree/25188137/person/1618349190/facts
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Re: WW1 Medal Translation help again please.?
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 07 June 22 11:15 BST (UK) »
Her Sibling born Abraham born in Manchester but statement Canada birth not set in Stone nothing is believable only "Said" same as Surname likely as suggested made more English for Migrant Jews coming from East Prussia

Cousin never claimed Medals as they appear returned unclaimed.

No Dependents entitled to Dependents Pension so likely he lived alone in Liverpool as a Lodger ?

Thanks everyone for your input.
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