Stuck on a very hard brickwork and need help...

[Jason Jase]

I am stuck on finding any info on my 3x great grandparents. Before 1851  I have no information on them. After that date I have a load of information on them. I was trying to push back this line since Whiteman is my last name and I and many others haven't been able to push it back any further.

They had 6 kids and lived in Heanor, Derbyshire, England
Mary Ann 1836
Elizabeth 1839
Sarah Ann 1847 (Who had a marriage Ban to an Alonzo Cox but disappeared from the record)
Eliza 1850 (not the same as Elizabeth)
James about 1853?
Henry about 1853? (my 2x great grandfather)

Thomas Whiteman was born About 1811 and Died in 1863 he was a coal miner
Ann Inger was born about 1812 and died  15 MAR 1887

I am looking for Thomas and Ann's Parents and siblings.
(In the same area another couple have the same married name but are not the same people. Both Thomas died in 1863)

For Thomas Whiteman I only found one DNA match with the Whiteman name which wasn't from his decedents. This match was about the 3x great grandparent level and was likely a brother or cousin to Thomas but other then DNA I have no proof of the connection. Marcus Monte Whiteman born 1820 in Russia and died 25 May 1906 Roswell, Chaves, New Mexico, USA. I put together Marcus' (know as Mark) family tree below him.  Marcus is a brick wall on his decedents family tree as well.

As for Ann Inger I have found
James Inger born about 1784 as a Neighbour he was married to a Ann Robinson. They are the right age to be Ann's Parents.... Yet other than the name and proximity I have nothing linking them.
I have also DNA matched to people with the last name Ingersoll in their deep back ancestors.
Ingersoll is the masculine of Inger meaning Son on Ing in old Swedish naming practices.

I need help with this... no one on multiple sites and tree's have been able to pass the Thomas Whiteman Ann Inger Brick wall.   

[rosie99]

For information

Thomas Whiteman
Ann Inger
Marriage 04 Apr 1836
St Lawrence, Heanor, Derbyshire

[rosie99]

Birth registration from GRO index
WHITEMAN, HENRY       mmn INGER 
GRO Reference: 1852  March Quarter in BASFORD  Volume 07B  Page 91

( They had 6 kids and lived in Heanor, Derbyshire, England
Mary Ann 1836
Elizabeth 1839
Sarah Ann 1847 (Who had a marriage Ban to an Alonzo Cox but disappeared from the record)
Eliza 1850 (not the same as Elizabeth)
James about 1853?
Henry about 1853? (my 2x great grandfather)
 . )

[Pheno]

1851 Census  all born Heanor Derbyshire but living Tag Hill, Basford, Nottinghamshire, England in 1851

Thomas   Whiteman   Head    40   Coal miner   b Heanor, Derbyshire
Ann   Whiteman     Wife 35 Seamer b Heanor, Derbyshire
Mary   Whiteman   Daughter   15   Seamer b Heanor, Derbyshire
Elizabeth   Whiteman   Daughter   14   Seamer b Heanor, Derbyshire
Sarah   Whiteman   Daughter   4   Scholar b Heanor, Derbyshire
Eliza   Whiteman   Daughter   1   - b  Heanor, Derbyshire

Pheno

[rosie99]

Also

WHITEMAN, FANNY       mmn INGER 
GRO Reference: 1856  June Quarter in BASFORD  Volume 07B  Page 100

Death Mar qtr 1859 
WHITEMAN    Fanny        Basford    7b   85
...


WHITEMAN, FANNY       mmn INGER 
GRO Reference: 1859  Sept Quarter in BASFORD  Volume 07B  Page 101

Death Jun qtr 1860   
Whiteman    Fanny        Basford    7b   67


 

[Pheno]

Then maybe this baptism
Mar 1807  Thomas Whiteman to John & Fanny Whiteman @ St. Lawrence, Heanor, Derbyshire

Pheno

[fiddlerslass]

Another couple of children , may help with naming patterns
Ambrose Whiteman mmn Ingar 1843 March Basford
Maria Whiteman mmn Ingar 1845 June Basford

[fiddlerslass]

The only Ingar/Inger couple having children baptized in Heanor in the 1800 to 1812 period is James and Ann - spotted so far

James Julius 1798
Mary 1800
Anna Urania 1803
Elizabeth 1806
Sarah 1808

[Galium]

I think that Alonzo Cox with wife Sara A Cox can be found in Heanor in 1881 - using the forename Lawrence.  The children they have with them are on the GRO birth index showing mother's maiden name Whiteman, or in the case of Thomas born in 1873 Weightman.