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Unusual entry on marriage certificate
« on: Saturday 04 June 22 18:58 BST (UK) »
While searching for a marriage I spotted this, never seen that before.

The column for the father's name  said  "Mother, then her name", the occupation column said "Singlewoman"
Dinsdale, Ellis, Gee, Goldsmith,Green,Hawks,Holmes,  Lacey, Longhorn, Pickersgill, Quantrill,Tuthill, Tuttle & Walker,  in E & W Yorks, Lincs, Norfolk & Suffolk. Census information is Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

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Re: Unusual entry on marriage certificate
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 04 June 22 19:12 BST (UK) »
Was that in Mirfield, by any chance? It's the only place that I have seen that done.
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Re: Unusual entry on marriage certificate
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 04 June 22 19:14 BST (UK) »
Sproatley. East Yorkshire.
Dinsdale, Ellis, Gee, Goldsmith,Green,Hawks,Holmes,  Lacey, Longhorn, Pickersgill, Quantrill,Tuthill, Tuttle & Walker,  in E & W Yorks, Lincs, Norfolk & Suffolk. Census information is Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

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Re: Unusual entry on marriage certificate
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 04 June 22 21:19 BST (UK) »
Apologies - I'm missing something somewhere!!

The column for the father's name  said  "Mother, then her name", the occupation column said "Singlewoman"

Would you be good enough to elaborate?



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Re: Unusual entry on marriage certificate
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 04 June 22 21:52 BST (UK) »
Apologies - I'm missing something somewhere!!

The column for the father's name  said  "Mother, then her name", the occupation column said "Singlewoman"

Would you be good enough to elaborate?

In the 8th column were you would expect to see the name of the father of the bride or groom, it says    Mother  Mary Jane Smith, and in the final column for rank or profession it say "singlewoman"

Dinsdale, Ellis, Gee, Goldsmith,Green,Hawks,Holmes,  Lacey, Longhorn, Pickersgill, Quantrill,Tuthill, Tuttle & Walker,  in E & W Yorks, Lincs, Norfolk & Suffolk. Census information is Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

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Re: Unusual entry on marriage certificate
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 04 June 22 22:01 BST (UK) »
I think Bee is talking about a marriage record like this one from Mirfield:

20 July 1838 Joseph Richardson  f/a bachelor  waterman  Lee Green  John Richardson  waterman
                   Elizabeth Tyne        f/a  spinster      -          Lee Green   Mary Tyne           singlewoman 

There are one or two others in this register where the 'father's name' box has eg: Joseph Brook & Betty Ellis singlewoman.

After this had been going on for a couple of years I think someone told them to stop.
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Re: Unusual entry on marriage certificate
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 04 June 22 22:07 BST (UK) »
These do crop up in parish marriage registers occasionally - I've seen quite a few examples, and would have been at the discretion  of the vicar.

The father's details aren't part of the information that is legally required to be included on the register, so it isn't a problem .

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« Reply #7 on: Saturday 04 June 22 22:55 BST (UK) »
Many thanks, never seen that before.

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Re: Unusual entry on marriage certificate
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 09 June 22 11:10 BST (UK) »
Normally its put when a father is decease when the child was young being brought up by the mother or if the groom or bride was born illegitimate with no known fathers name and in some rare occasions the vicar may have been at the church/parish when he participated in the  baptism of said child (now groom or bride) . The vicar may have remembered the bride or groom as child and knew the child as it grew up without a father in a small village. Also you say this mother on the marriage certificate was a single woman
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In my opinion the marriage residence is not always the place of birth. Never forget Workhouse and overseers accounts records of birth