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Mystery - Rook/e/es family
« on: Saturday 04 June 22 19:34 BST (UK) »
Hi
I'm at a dead end with a Jane Rook/e/es who married John Scales 7.2.1796 Pickering.
Other trees have her as the daughter of William and Ann Rooke née Stansfield of Royds Hall but I've found the christening of a Jane Rooke on familysearch 1776, also of a Richard Rooke 1767,  William 1769 and Jane 1772  to parents William and Ann Rook, all in Pickering, but found nothing else about this Pickering William and Ann.
Anything other info or help would be much appreciated. The 1776 christening fits with her age on the 1841 census with husband John Scales (the Scales family all seem to be Stone Masons) the Rook/Rooke name crops up often through the descendants
Thanks for any assistance
Catherine :-)
Dunning/Downing, Osborn/e, Astley -Cheshire/Birmingham/Middlesex
Fanthorpe/Hall/Driffill/Storm - Lincolnshire
Bower/Woodward/Bingham/Pettinger/Shaw - Nottinghamshire
Shaw, Marland - Lancashire
Broph(e)y - Queens County, Ireland
Richards - Neath Swansea
Hunt/Fox - Lincs, Waterfield/Middleton - Staffs
Hart/Harland/Askew/Scales - Yorkshire
Brereton/Vickers - Cheshire
Gleaves/Sandford/Hulse/Hulme - Wolstanton/Audley Staffs
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Re: Mystery - Rook/e/es family
« Reply #1 on: Monday 06 June 22 09:58 BST (UK) »
With the 1841 census being rounded down, Jane 65 could have been born 1772 - 1776.

This looks to be the possible death registrations of Jane & John?

SCALES, JANE       72  (1773)
GRO Reference: 1845  M Quarter in PICKERING UNION  Volume 24  Page 307

SCALES, JOHN       74 
GRO Reference: 1849  M Quarter in PICKERING UNION  Volume 24  Page 364

These would appear to be their children, if so they do not appear to be following the English Naming Pattern exactly for Jane’s parents being William and Ann Rooke, but then not all did.

John 1796, Elizabeth 1801, Jane 1803, Ann 1805
George 1808, William 1810, Rooke 1813, Jane 1816

Do you know anything of John’s parents?

Colin

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Re: Mystery - Rook/e/es family
« Reply #2 on: Monday 06 June 22 16:08 BST (UK) »
Thankyou for your reply, I have his parents as William 1748 - 1820, and Jane née Oliver 1743 - 1800
Regards
Catherine
Dunning/Downing, Osborn/e, Astley -Cheshire/Birmingham/Middlesex
Fanthorpe/Hall/Driffill/Storm - Lincolnshire
Bower/Woodward/Bingham/Pettinger/Shaw - Nottinghamshire
Shaw, Marland - Lancashire
Broph(e)y - Queens County, Ireland
Richards - Neath Swansea
Hunt/Fox - Lincs, Waterfield/Middleton - Staffs
Hart/Harland/Askew/Scales - Yorkshire
Brereton/Vickers - Cheshire
Gleaves/Sandford/Hulse/Hulme - Wolstanton/Audley Staffs
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Re: Mystery - Rook/e/es family
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 07 June 22 12:39 BST (UK) »
Hello
I've not cracked where they came from but here's what I have

1752 3rd April tax paid for a William Rook to be apprenticed to Richard Wilson flax dresser of Pickering
It cost £2 for the apprenticeship made february 1752

27.5.1766 William Rooke flaxdresser of this parish married Jane Robson spinster by banns .Both of this parish .witnesses Richard Peacock and George Wood.
(Jane bapt 20.9.1731 d of William Robson)

30.6.1767 Richard Rooke s of William baptised (Buried 3.11.1830 Pickering .Will York Peculiers 1831)
29.3.1769 William Rook s of William baptised  (buried 22.9.1775 s of William and Jane Rook)
24.7.1775 Thomas s of William and Jane Rook baptised  (buried 24.1.1822 -Will York peculiers)

1776  Jane d of William and Ann Rook baptised

29.1.1789 William Rooke flax dresser buried

1798 land redemption tax - land owned by Jno Williamson in Pickering leased to Clarke Hodgson and Rook.

No burials for either Ann Rook or Jane Rook.

Only other entry in Pickering registers Mary Rook widow buried 6.4.1749 .
Is she his widowed mother and is that the reason he is being apprentced in 1752?

For completeness I should mention there is an estate in Leeds with a deceased William Rooke widow Ann and daughter Jane in 1790. This is Esholt Hall .Ann the widow leaves a Will 1797 .It could be them but given your William is a flax dresser in Pickering I'm not sure how likely that is.


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Re: Mystery - Rook/e/es family
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 07 June 22 16:21 BST (UK) »
Thankyou for all this information. There's also the marriage of  William Rook and Jane "Olover" in 1770 Pickering, so wondering if Jane nee Robson died and he remarried or if this is a different William Rook/e.
It seems most other researchers on ancestry have them linked to the Rookes you mention of Esholt Hall but I think that's unlikely, I don't seem to be getting very far with the Rook/es of Pickering though
Thankyou again
Regards
Catherine :-)
Dunning/Downing, Osborn/e, Astley -Cheshire/Birmingham/Middlesex
Fanthorpe/Hall/Driffill/Storm - Lincolnshire
Bower/Woodward/Bingham/Pettinger/Shaw - Nottinghamshire
Shaw, Marland - Lancashire
Broph(e)y - Queens County, Ireland
Richards - Neath Swansea
Hunt/Fox - Lincs, Waterfield/Middleton - Staffs
Hart/Harland/Askew/Scales - Yorkshire
Brereton/Vickers - Cheshire
Gleaves/Sandford/Hulse/Hulme - Wolstanton/Audley Staffs
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Re: Mystery - Rook/e/es family
« Reply #5 on: Friday 10 June 22 10:14 BST (UK) »
Hello
I checked the marriage you mentioned in 1770 and Jane Oliver is marrying a William Scale
William Scale of Middleton bleecher and Jane Oliver spinster of this parish (ie Pickering) married by banns 27.11.1770
wit John Campion and William Coultman.

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Re: Mystery - Rook/e/es family
« Reply #6 on: Friday 10 June 22 12:51 BST (UK) »
Thankyou for your reply. Its is confusing with 2 Williams and Jane's marrying within a few years of each other, my Scales, that Im sure of, in the 1800s, were Stone Masons so was hoping that would narrow it down.
Regards
Catherine
Dunning/Downing, Osborn/e, Astley -Cheshire/Birmingham/Middlesex
Fanthorpe/Hall/Driffill/Storm - Lincolnshire
Bower/Woodward/Bingham/Pettinger/Shaw - Nottinghamshire
Shaw, Marland - Lancashire
Broph(e)y - Queens County, Ireland
Richards - Neath Swansea
Hunt/Fox - Lincs, Waterfield/Middleton - Staffs
Hart/Harland/Askew/Scales - Yorkshire
Brereton/Vickers - Cheshire
Gleaves/Sandford/Hulse/Hulme - Wolstanton/Audley Staffs
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Re: Mystery - Rook/e/es family
« Reply #7 on: Friday 10 June 22 13:05 BST (UK) »
Me again
Thomas was a wheelwright and also according to his marriage entry one of the witnesses was a Robert Clarke. Robert was a blacksmith born c 1748.
So it looks like it was Thomas  who was the Rook in Clark Hodgson and Rook renting land in 1798 .
Not sure if they helps any but you never know.

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Re: Mystery - Rook/e/es family
« Reply #8 on: Monday 13 June 22 18:34 BST (UK) »
Thankyou for your help.

I'll keep searching and hopefully get a bit further with the Rookes/Scales

Regards
Catherine :-)
Dunning/Downing, Osborn/e, Astley -Cheshire/Birmingham/Middlesex
Fanthorpe/Hall/Driffill/Storm - Lincolnshire
Bower/Woodward/Bingham/Pettinger/Shaw - Nottinghamshire
Shaw, Marland - Lancashire
Broph(e)y - Queens County, Ireland
Richards - Neath Swansea
Hunt/Fox - Lincs, Waterfield/Middleton - Staffs
Hart/Harland/Askew/Scales - Yorkshire
Brereton/Vickers - Cheshire
Gleaves/Sandford/Hulse/Hulme - Wolstanton/Audley Staffs
Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov