Herbert Williams 1890 Forden

[K8Case]

Good morning David,
Sorry for the late reply, once again thank you for the wealth of information.
I'm going to have an hour now to try to work out who is who.
Kate x

[DCB]

A few more items:-

George Roberts, infant of Pool Town, buried on 9th June 1834.

John Roberts, son of William, a joiner, married Adelaide Jones on 2nd March 1864 in Welshpool.

1871: Church Street, Lower Pool Welshpool, Forden, Montgomeryshire
John Roberts Head - 40 b 1831 - Welshpool
Adelaide Roberts Wife - 31 b 1840 - Welshpool
John Austin - Nurse Child - 1 b 1870 Welshpool (illegitimate child of Elisbeth Mary Austin)

1881: 1, Clifton Street, Lower Pool, Forden
Same with John Austin, now 11 (adopted?)

A Memorial Inscription for Margaret Griffiths nee Roberts:-
In Loving Memory of / Evan E. GRIFFITHS, / Who Died April 6th. 1893, / Aged 73 Years / Also of Margaret, / Wife of the above / Who Died March 29th. 1886, / Aged 68 Years. / Also of Isabella, / Daughter of the above / Who Died May 1858, Aged 14 Months. / "Peace, perfect peace, with loved ones far away; / In Jesus' keeping we are safe and they."

David

[K8Case]

Good morning David,
Thank you for the extra information. I'm still trying to piece together how the Roberts family works. I think I'm a bit confused as there are a few generations living together at times. Hopefully today James Williams and Mary Ann Roberts wedding certificate will arrive in the post.
Kate x

[K8Case]

I received Berties birth certificate yesterday, he's obviously the right one but doesn't have a father listed. Even if James had passed away before he was born would he normally still be named on the birth certificate?
Many thanks,
Kate x

[K8Case]

This is the certificate.
Kate x

[DCB]

Pleased to hear that you have the certificate. It is a shame that it doesn't give the father's name.

I wondered about the death of James Williams and I think it was in 1886. Although his age varies on the censuses, it gives it as 40.

James Williams, 40, of Pool Town, buried on 6th March 1886.

WILLIAMS, JAMES 40 
GRO Reference: 1886 M Quarter in FORDEN Volume 11B Page 160

David

[K8Case]

Could it possibly be this James Williams do you think?
Kate x

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[K8Case]

That was in Forden too .
Kate x

[DCB]

It is difficult to be certain, because no other details are given. The only others in the area were the one in 1889 and one in 1883, born 1819.

Unfortunately it would mean a risk on the certificate, but it must have been before 1889-90, given that there is no father on Bertie's certificate.

David

P.S. I forgot to mention that the one in 1889 also gives the abode as Pool Town, buried on 5th December, which means that he would have been alive when Bertie was conceived and probably mentioned on the certificate.