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Your Opinions Please Regarding his Real Birth Surname?
« on: Sunday 12 June 22 16:30 BST (UK) »
Opinions required regarding this Mystery found in Army Attestation Records for
 Pte 17855 James Murray Ireland of 19th Pals born Castle Douglas Ayr
 Killed in Action 22 March 1917

He married September Quarter 1915  West Derby Vol 8b page 1241 Jenny Williams
 of 10 Barkeley Rd Seaforth Liverpool
She claimed Soldiers Effects and Dependents Pension no Children
Widow Jenny remarried June Quarter 1919 West Derby Vol 8b page 850 Charles T Sanders
Presume his Dependents Pension ceased 1919 upon his reMarriage?
What prompted this Claim  1920 signed by Brother ? William Wilson
It names his Mother as Mrs Euphemia Wilson
Brothers William, Thomas, John, George
Sisters Maggie and Janet
All claiming to be Full Blood not Half Blood.
Am I reading this correct, that his Real Birth Name was James Wilson not J M Ireland?

Why would they be completing this in 1920 ?

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« Reply #1 on: Sunday 12 June 22 16:52 BST (UK) »
https://www.rootschat.com/links/01rm8/

Memorial - George Wilson and Euphemia Ireland, his wife.
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« Reply #2 on: Sunday 12 June 22 17:00 BST (UK) »
1891 - transcription

James Wilson 5 yrs b Balmaghue, Kircudbright

George Wilson 23 yrs
Euphemia 24 yrs
Thomas 2 yrs

Perhaps James was born before marriage?
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« Reply #3 on: Sunday 12 June 22 17:05 BST (UK) »
Scotlands People
James Murray Ireland b 1886 Balmaghie

Euphemia Ireland married George Wilson 1888
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Re: Your Opinions Please Regarding his Real Birth Surname?
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 12 June 22 17:09 BST (UK) »
Castle Douglas is in the Parish of Kelton, Kirkcudbrightshire, if you're looking at parish records. 

I have Wilsons from that area but my line had moved to Wales by then.

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« Reply #5 on: Sunday 12 June 22 17:11 BST (UK) »
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« Reply #6 on: Sunday 12 June 22 17:58 BST (UK) »
Heywood and Gadget
In only a Few Minutes you completely Solved what seemed Impossible to find the Answer to this Soldier changing his Surname

Brilliant

Thank You !

Have found several Ancestry Usernames who never knew what happened to James Wilson in their Trees
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« Reply #7 on: Sunday 12 June 22 18:37 BST (UK) »
That’s good to know that it works out.  :)
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« Reply #8 on: Sunday 12 June 22 18:44 BST (UK) »
Well identified heywood. I checked the Kelton records just in case but nothing was showing so the Balmaghie  was the one.

I've walked/toured around those parishes (and Kells) a good few times following my Burgess/Carson/Wilson/McTaggart lines.  They're worth a visit.

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Add   The fenced off area on the right is where some of the Spalding graves are. They were quite an important family in that area.
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