Lauritz Hermansen (1855-1903) — any Danish research experts?!

[TuTuTulip]

I am having a lot of difficulty finding a birth certificate or church records for my 2nd great-grandfather, Lauritz Hermansen — I'm hoping there are some Danish research buffs out there that can help me! 

This is the information I have for Lauritz so far:

Born 26 April 1855, Silkeborg, Denmark (I do not know which parish)
Father: Theodor Hermansen
Mother: Sophie Amalie Jensen
Married: 26 April 1882 in New Zealand (Maren Andersen Bak)

The information above was obtained from Lauritz and Maren's marriage certificate, but I am ideally wanting evidence of Lauritz's birth date (and place) from a primary source, such as a birth certificate. I can't seem to find his parents on any census documents, etc. either. 

Lauritz was naturalised in New Zealand on 10 March 1883. The certificate states he was 28 years of age at the time of his naturalisation and had been living in New Zealand for 3 years. I am yet to find any definitive proof of his emigration to New Zealand — the closest I have got is finding a Lauritz Hermansen who travelled on the Herschel in 1878 from Hamburg to Queensland, Australia (although the stated age is 28, which doesn't quite match up with 'my' Lauritz).

I am very new to genealogy research so if anyone has any tips or directions they can point me, I would be most grateful!

[jamcat95]

Hi
Hmm no luck in finding them yet.
This is his probate. You may have it already. It is free to see it but you have to become a member to do so. It is long:
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33SQ-GRH2-Z1X?i=191&cc=1865481&personaUrl=%2Fark%3A%2F61903%2F1%3A1%3AKDTM-5LZ

Is his date of birth exact?


Ian

[davecapps]

Here are a few Hermansen in Silkeborg. None seem to fit though
https://www.danishfamilysearch.com/search/

Dave

[Isabel H]

I can't find Lauritz or Sophie anywhere in the Danish Demographic Database (censuses). There is a Theodor Hermansen, parents Andreas & Antonette, in Randers amt in 1845 (age 11 b. Helsingor) and 1850 (age 16 b Copenhagen).

The Danish Emigrant database has only this Lauritz Hermansen:
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01rme/

The Church Books for Silkeborg (in Skanderborg amt) start from 1856.

[TuTuTulip]

This is his probate. You may have it already. It is free to see it but you have to become a member to do so. It is long:
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33SQ-GRH2-Z1X?i=191&cc=1865481&personaUrl=%2Fark%3A%2F61903%2F1%3A1%3AKDTM-5LZ

Is his date of birth exact?

Thanks for the link to Lauritz's probate — I had come across that one previously. 

The date of birth I have for Lauritz is exact as in it was the date recorded on his marriage certificate, but I'm beginning to have doubts about that being his true birth date!

The Lauritz that travelled on the Herschel to Australia in 1878 was born in 1850, so if it's the same Lauritz, his year of birth could be earlier than the one stated on his marriage certificate.

[TuTuTulip]

I can't find Lauritz or Sophie anywhere in the Danish Demographic Database (censuses). There is a Theodor Hermansen, parents Andreas & Antonette, in Randers amt in 1845 (age 11 b. Helsingor) and 1850 (age 16 b Copenhagen).

The Danish Emigrant database has only this Lauritz Hermansen:
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01rme/

The Church Books for Silkeborg (in Skanderborg amt) start from 1856.

Thanks, Isabel. The Lauritz Hermansen you found on the Danish Emigrant database may be the one I am looking for. I can't find any information on what happened to him after his arrival in Australia though and whether that is the same Lauritz that somehow ended up in New Zealand two years later.

If Lauritz's details are correct, would you expect to see him showing up in a census somewhere between 1850-ish and 1879 (which is when he apparently arrived in New Zealand)?

[jamcat95]

Hi
I have this Lauritz Hermansen born 1849 in the moving books. I have him in some other records and it looks he could be your man or at least the same man from the emigration record.
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=21585086#364661,70617532 - first line

It is a wee bit late here in Sweden so I'll post more tomorrow once I have them collected.


Ian

[TuTuTulip]

Oh, wow — this is incredible (and, yes, it certainly is late in Sweden right now ... I just googled the time there)! 

These questions are all for when you're back at your computer next: 

Is there another name written after 'Hermansen'? I can't quite figure out what it says.

Do you know what is written in the columns to the right of Lauritz's name?

And, because I am full of questions ... what is a 'moving book'?

Thanks so much. 

[TreeSpirit]

I have this Lauritz Hermansen born 1849 in the moving books. I have him in some other records and it looks he could be your man or at least the same man from the emigration record.
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=21585086#364661,70617532 - first line

This could be same the same guy departing ("afgang"?) from the same place (i.e. Kragelund, Viborg) 3 years later:
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QSQ-G9ZX-ZW85 (#14)