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Re: Stick To Your Guns!
« Reply #18 on: Saturday 21 January 23 19:01 GMT (UK) »
This is very true, Newbie.

We need to spare a thought for the next generation of researchers, too. It's going to be 30 years now before another census is published ... and the social dislocation of the second world war will make it difficult to make the leap back from 1951 to 1921 in many cases, even with the stepping-stone of the 1939 register.

We need to think about the legacy we leave them.

We need to be aware that WE are the ones who KNEW the people who lived through this census "dark age" ... and who have the family stories which have been passes to us of uncle Fred who was born in Plymouth, enlisted in the Navy in 1939, served out the war in Scapa Flow and settled in the Orkneys.

Of course, officialdom was MUCH more officious in 1951 than 1851, and the enquiries in the 1951 census were probably much deeper, and there should be plenty of other documents (but will they be able to get at them??) with places of birth accurately recorded ... so putting the pieces of the jigsaw together should be possible, But they WILL hit brickwalls ... and our family folklore may include the hints they need to break through them.

We should do what we can to preserve them ... and to make sure that if we HAVE inadvertently put some false information out there while making our rookie errors (and we ALL made them!), we try our hardest to call it back in and correct it.
All identified names up to and including my great x5 grandparents: Abbot Andrews Baker Blenc(h)ow Brothers Burrows Chambers Clifton Cornwell Escott Fisher Foster Frost Giddins Groom Hardwick Harris Hart Hayho(e) Herman Holcomb(e) Holmes Hurley King-Spooner Martindale Mason Mitchell Murphy Neves Oakey Packman Palmer Peabody Pearce Pettit(t) Piper Pottenger Pound Purkis Rackliff(e) Richardson Scotford Sherman Sinden Snear Southam Spooner Stephenson Varing Weatherley Webb Whitney Wiles Wright

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Re: Stick To Your Guns!
« Reply #19 on: Saturday 21 January 23 20:12 GMT (UK) »
1841 census was the first relatively useful census. Whether born in county or not was the only requirement for those born in England and Wales, but S, I or foreign parts for those born outside.

I have 3 ancestors who said "Not born in county" in 1841 but 2 of them died in 1849 and one just weeks before the 1851 census. Buckinghamshire, Cambridgeshire and Dorset are likely suspects due to birthplace of their spouse/marriage witnesses/locality of the surname, but nothing definite yet.
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LONDON, Coombs, Roberts, Auber, Helsdon, Fradine, Morin, Goodacre
DORSET Coombs, Munday
NORFOLK Helsdon, Riches, Harbord, Budery
KENT Roberts, Goodacre
SUSSEX Walder, Boniface, Dinnage, Standen, Lee, Botten, Wickham, Jupp
SUFFOLK Titshall, Frost, Fairweather, Mayhew, Archer, Eade, Scarfe
DURHAM Stewart, Musgrave, Wilson, Forster
SCOTLAND Stewart in Selkirk
USA Musgrave, Saix
ESSEX Cornwell, Stock, Quilter, Lawrence, Whale, Clift
OXON Edgington, Smith, Inkpen, Snell, Batten, Brain

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Re: Stick To Your Guns!
« Reply #20 on: Saturday 21 January 23 22:33 GMT (UK) »
One of the things to be positive about is how much non-census resources will be used to fill the void of no new census records. Electoral records in particular when they are available online with a search facility can pin down families location-wise with more years covered than the once a decade census.

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Re: Stick To Your Guns!
« Reply #21 on: Saturday 21 January 23 23:35 GMT (UK) »
Good point, blue ... although of course they will only give names, not relationships; and the under-18s won't show up at all.

For families moving from short-term tenancy to short-term tenancy, with common names, this could still make tracking movements a real pain in the you-know-what.

But as ever, genealogists will rise to the task, be investigative in their midset and creative in their thinking, and somehow they'll find their way through.
All identified names up to and including my great x5 grandparents: Abbot Andrews Baker Blenc(h)ow Brothers Burrows Chambers Clifton Cornwell Escott Fisher Foster Frost Giddins Groom Hardwick Harris Hart Hayho(e) Herman Holcomb(e) Holmes Hurley King-Spooner Martindale Mason Mitchell Murphy Neves Oakey Packman Palmer Peabody Pearce Pettit(t) Piper Pottenger Pound Purkis Rackliff(e) Richardson Scotford Sherman Sinden Snear Southam Spooner Stephenson Varing Weatherley Webb Whitney Wiles Wright


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Re: Stick To Your Guns!
« Reply #22 on: Sunday 22 January 23 19:20 GMT (UK) »
Also your ancestor may have sailed the 7 seas or at least travelled over the UK inbetween 2 certain censuses and yet it appears they never left home as they are in Shoreditch, London in both censuses, and they married a year after the 2nd of the 2 certain census, such as 1851 and 1861.
Researching:

LONDON, Coombs, Roberts, Auber, Helsdon, Fradine, Morin, Goodacre
DORSET Coombs, Munday
NORFOLK Helsdon, Riches, Harbord, Budery
KENT Roberts, Goodacre
SUSSEX Walder, Boniface, Dinnage, Standen, Lee, Botten, Wickham, Jupp
SUFFOLK Titshall, Frost, Fairweather, Mayhew, Archer, Eade, Scarfe
DURHAM Stewart, Musgrave, Wilson, Forster
SCOTLAND Stewart in Selkirk
USA Musgrave, Saix
ESSEX Cornwell, Stock, Quilter, Lawrence, Whale, Clift
OXON Edgington, Smith, Inkpen, Snell, Batten, Brain

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Re: Stick To Your Guns!
« Reply #23 on: Tuesday 24 January 23 21:09 GMT (UK) »
My sentiments entirely, I cringe when I hear people say that they have "Traced their Family back to William the Conquerer." I have Mark Antony in my tree but he was born in the 20th century  ;D
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Given how the Mark Antony of antiquity was said to have behaved, we probably all have him in our family tree whether we know it or not.  ;)
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