Death record missing on the GRO Indexes?

[LizzieL]

OP had another thread about Heaton / Steel children earlier, so looks  like the Belper Ernest is the right one who went to Sutton
and the Chapel e-l-F / Sleaford one is a co-incidence and not connected

[Dundee]

Searching for a death in 2009 which is in the England and Wales, Death Index, 1989-2019:

But is not on the GRO Online Indexes? Why is this? I had been hoping to order the death certificate.

This is not a death registration index.

https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=836467.0

The information apparently originates from: GreyPower Deceased Data. compiled by Wilmington Millennium, West Yorkshire.  The data apparently comes from funeral directors and obituaries. It is then packaged for marketing companies to ensure they don't contact the deceased.

Stan

As has been said, he could have died anywhere.

Debra 

[LizzieL]

Searching for a death in 2009 which is in the England and Wales, Death Index, 1989-2019:

But is not on the GRO Online Indexes? Why is this? I had been hoping to order the death certificate.

This is not a death registration index.

https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=836467.0

The information apparently originates from: GreyPower Deceased Data. compiled by Wilmington Millennium, West Yorkshire.  The data apparently comes from funeral directors and obituaries. It is then packaged for marketing companies to ensure they don't contact the deceased.

Stan

As has been said, he could have died anywhere.

Debra 

Yes. My mother died in 2009 and the index referred to above gives her normal residence, not where she actually died, about 200 miles away. if her name had been Mary Smith, it would have been a challenge for anyone to find her death registration.

[LizzieL]

The information apparently originates from: GreyPower Deceased Data. compiled by Wilmington Millennium, West Yorkshire.  The data apparently comes from funeral directors and obituaries. It is then packaged for marketing companies to ensure they don't contact the deceased.

Stan

Doesn't seem to work

[dawnsh]

if this hasn't been resolved the other side of the weekend, I can check the actual GRO death index on microfiche next week.

I know from experience, the GRO online index is not complete and has errors.

[ALAMO2008]

Agreed we found that also
Which could also be what Zakerias found in error.
Have they definitely got evidence that this was their Ernest ?
There is an Ernest Heaton born Florence Steel on Ancestry they also have Interest in Italy Ancestors

Although their Ernest Tree has his Date on Feb 1916 Birth
They did not have a Wife or Children or his Death even

New Information So I have amended my previous post above.

If Zakerias is Ancestry User with Italy Connection that has Heaton/Steel Tree
Their Ernest born 22 FEB 1916 has no Spouse or Children or Address after 1939 known
Siblings all died
His Brother William Myers Heaton died Manchester 1974

If Ernest did marry Edith Moss 1949 they had Daughter J E Heaton born Ince in Makerfield Manchester
C J in December Quarter 1959
J B in June Quarter 1962
C T in September Quarter 1969

Ernest may have moved from Sutton after Edith Death to be nearer his Children
Who may have Emigrated as CaroleW suggested
Ernest may have died n Holiday visiting them
Then too expensive to Bury back Home
But Home Sold and Probate done in UK

Moderator comment: Names of potentially living people removed

[jonw65]

New Information
If Ernest did marry Edith Moss 1949 they had Daughter J E Heaton born Ince in Makerfield Manchester
C J in December Quarter 1959
J B in June Quarter 1962
C T in September Quarter 1969

Ernest and Edith appear to be in Surrey by 1957. They may have had one daughter.
There is a Heaton - Moss marriage in Ince in 1959.

[Zakerias]

Hi everyone,

Sorry to keep you all waiting.

This is his birth reg?
March 1916 Belper 7b 1106
Heaton, Ernest   
Mother Steel   

In Mountsorrel in 1921.
Married Edith Moss in 1949 in Manchester (at Newton Heath, St. Wilfrid)

Edith Heaton died Sutton, Nov 2002.
Date of birth 10 Dec 1927.

Yes this is the one jonw65. Father John William Heaton, mother Florence Heaton (nee Steel). What led me to Sutton was Ernest's father's death in 1965, where Ernest is listed as living at 46 Stoneleigh Crescent in Ewell, Surrey. Very close to Sutton. I had ordered Edith Heaton's death certificate but I wasn't sure of a connection. I had been looking for a 'Joyce Edith Heaton' as a Leicester Evening Mail article details Ernest's engagement on Saturday 10 June 1944.

The GRO death index only includes England & Wales.

It does not include Scotland, Northern Ireland, the Irish Republic, Isle of Man, Channel Islands or further afield to be considered abroad.

It might be worth paying £1.50 for the Grant & Will to see if his place of death was recorded there. It might not be.

Thank you - I did this and Ernest is listed as living at 8 White Lodge Close, Christchurch Park, Sutton SM2 5TQ. His daughter 'Jane Elizabeth Saunders' was his executor.

This could be the Lincolnshire death

England & Wales Deaths 2007-2020
Mr Ernest Heaton 92
death date 7 June 2009
residence Sleaford

Thanks, I'm not sure this one is correct but I have ordered it anyway.

[LizzieL]

New Information
If Ernest did marry Edith Moss 1949 they had Daughter J E Heaton born Ince in Makerfield Manchester
C J in December Quarter 1959
J B in June Quarter 1962
C T in September Quarter 1969

This matches with a Miss J E H marrying a Mr Saunders in 1975 in Surrey Mid E reg district
And her then being EH's executor as mentioned in last post