WW1 Medal Translation help again please.?

[ALAMO2008]

Pte 1107 William Charles Horder went over 1/7th King's Liverpool Regt in March 1915
Medal Cards confuse the date ?
Then his Silver War Badge Card confuse the Date of his Discharge? What was Sickness Reason on Disability Pension
Yet he seems to be in the Army up to 1925 ?













Any advice appreciated

[AllanUK]

Pension card doesn't really show anything meaningful.

[jim1]

Having a quick scan of it all it appears he first went overseas
with the 7th. TF entitling him to the TF Medal.
By March 1916 he was still under the Colours the terms of his TF
service being 4 under the Colours + 1 in reserve.
When conscription was introduced in 1916 the rule changed
for Territorials & they could now be kept on for the duration.
This meant effectively re-joining so he would have signed new attestation papers
& given a new number. (It might be worth mentioning that some Territorials
"voluntarily" extended their service so keeping there original number.)
So your man gets the number 46112 & is discharged to sickness in 1917 after
having a spell in the LC.
Post war he re-joins the 7th. TF.

[ALAMO2008]

Thanks AllanUK and Jim1 for your Inputs both.
This Horder Family appeared on a Bootlehistory Forum wanting information about their Family living in Bootle any information.
A Researcher living in Australia ex Bootle born, she found the Family 1911 Census
I noticed William Charles Horder 21 Yr son lived in the Road across from the Match Factory and Road from where my Granddad Samuel Chapman and his Parents lived.
Granddad number 196 joined the TF at Seaforth Barracks in 1908 and served with the Bootle 1/7th King's Liverpool Regt
As Granddad was also born 1890 I concluded they probably went to the same local Secondary School and both became Schoolmates and Granddad probably talked him into joining the TF also
I decided to set up a Sub Ancestry Tree for William Charles Horder 1890 and Research what I could.
The Medal Cards showed he was TF number 1107 just 911 later number than Granddad and William Charles went to France with 1/7th King's with Granddad probably on 7/03/1915 but one Card says 08/03/1915 next day for him
Both became L/Cpl in 1/7th so probably definitely knew each other.
They both appear to have fought Together March 1915 to Summer 1917 then something happened to William?
Not Wounded by Sickness and sent back to UK and Silver War Badge Discharged 13/12/1917
Somehow he managed to Marry Agnes Mabel Manley in Bootle in December Quarter 1916
They had a Son WCJ Horder born 17 May 1918 Showing the Dad was Home in Bootle Sep 1917 when my Granddad was at Ypres on the Menin Road On 20 September 1917 earning his MM
I saw William's 1921 Census the other day and he was working for the Royal Engineers as a Meter Reader at The Royal Ordnance Depot in Aintree
The both probably attended the 11 November War Memorial in Bootle every year together 1922 to 1939
I was Born across from that War Memorial in Bootle Maternity Clinic
In the late 1930s Granddad moved across from Bootle Cemetery into the new Houses built in Park Lane they had an Inside Toilet at number 13 and a Garden
William Charles Horder and Wife and Son did exactly the same into 78 Garner Ave which is Parallel to Park Lane and joins.
I imagine both Granddad Samuel and William drank at The Walnut Tree at the bottom of both Roads the only Pub around for miles as these new estates were surrounded by Farm fields and Countryside only beyond.
In 1943 my Mum moved to Gardner Avenue just further down that Road with her Widowed Mother and her new Widower Husband
In 1943 in The Walnut Tree during the Blackout  she is introduced to a young Soldier son of Samuel Chapman from Park Lane
In 1943 Granddad dies at his POW and has Military Burial in Bootle Cemetery
No doubt William attended his Funeral as if I am correct they had been Friends for over 40 years
Mum and Dad married after Dad returned from India after the War
They lived with his Widowed Mother at number 13 Park Lane
And that probably is where I was Conceived
William Charles Horder died aged 92 in 1985
How Weird is that Story ?
(See both their Names on the Service/Medal Card attached above)

[jim1]

Weird or not it's still a good story.