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Re: Found! George Garratt - Bristol, Somerset, England - 1830
« Reply #18 on: Friday 01 July 22 22:38 BST (UK) »

Looking at the obituary & comparing with the other info. on your tree, Ann should be the wife of William G Griffith.

Annie

This may not be very useful but William Griffith was the witness to George’s Naturalization. I saw it earlier but any record is via Fold3 which is payable. I when I saw this post, I thought I had better mention it. :)

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XGWZ-R52


That should be somewhere here for free

https://catalog.archives.gov/search?q=Naturalisation%20petitions%20Maryland


Publication Number:M1168
Publication Title:Indexes to Naturalization Petitions to the U.S. Circuit and District Courts for Maryland, 1797-1951
Publisher:NARA
Record Group:21
State:Maryland
Court:[BLANK]
Short Description:NARA M1168. Index cards for Naturalization Petitions filed in the U.S. Circuit and District Courts for Maryland, 1797-1951.
Roll:0005
Date Range:1797 - 1906
Name Range:Emerick, Andrew - Garrett, Joseph
Naturalization Year:1876
Immigrant:Garrett, George
Birth Year Or Age:[Blank]
Country of birth or allegiance:England
First Witness's name:William Griffith
Second Witness's name:[Blank]

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Re: Found! George Garratt - Bristol, Somerset, England - 1830
« Reply #19 on: Saturday 02 July 22 01:01 BST (UK) »
Hi all! Thank you so much for the help! I added his naturalization, but was unable to find where Margaret and George got married so I'm thinking they didn't. I'm putting together little pieces at a time and found his grandparents! Doing my best to find his parents, but coming to a dead end.

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Re: Found! George Garratt - Bristol, Somerset, England - 1830
« Reply #20 on: Saturday 02 July 22 01:33 BST (UK) »
How can you say who his grandparents are if you don’t know his parents?

Genealogy is a slow business, you have to take it step by step.
Early Records in US are difficult to come by.  You have to keep poking and prodding.  :)

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Re: George Garratt - Bristol, Somerset, England - 1900
« Reply #21 on: Saturday 02 July 22 01:45 BST (UK) »
Do you have births for the children with their mothers name/surname as it may be they weren't married?

Have you found George on a passenger list to England c1898?
How do you know the name of the mother is Margaret Thomas?

How can you say who his grandparents are if you don’t know his parents?
I wondered that too?

So far, no mention of paperwork to confirm anything apart from George’s Naturalization.


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Re: Found! George Garratt - Bristol, Somerset, England - 1830
« Reply #22 on: Saturday 02 July 22 01:52 BST (UK) »
There was a reply earlier with his parents George Garratt (1791-1889) and Mary Ann Stacey (1779-1841) and then that George's parents John Garratt (1760-1844) and Elizabeth Allen (1770-1866).

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Re: Found! George Garratt - Bristol, Somerset, England - 1830
« Reply #23 on: Saturday 02 July 22 02:10 BST (UK) »
Have you looked at the Baltimore newspapers to see if there is a report of his trip to see his sister?  I thought there might have been one in the English papers but cannot see anything.

It is jolly annoying he isn’t coming up easily on shipping records for that trip.

Reply#10 is outlining the family of a George of right age at Easton in Gordano.  I am sorry to be a pain, but you don’t know for sure that one is yours. He is just one well worth considering.

You could look at his siblings and see where they go.  Is there a sister alive about 1898?
Death notices for any of them naming a brother in Baltimore.

I still don’t see how you, or the researcher your father employed, can tell Margaret’s surname was Thomas.
But perhaps that was also in Newspapers of the time. (Pre 1855)  I don’t have a sub to the US ones at present.


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Re: George Garratt - Bristol, Somerset, England - 1830
« Reply #24 on: Saturday 02 July 22 02:17 BST (UK) »


In 1870 Baltimore, George is 40 and Margaret 38 - this is the only census they seem to have been found in and this states that both of them were born in Wales!

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1860…he born England, she born Wales

Can you please give me the details - surname spelling etc. as I simply can't find the family on the 1860 Census?

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Re: Found! George Garratt - Bristol, Somerset, England - 1830
« Reply #25 on: Saturday 02 July 22 02:29 BST (UK) »
Name:   George Garret
Age:   29
Birth Year:   abt 1831
Gender:   Male
Race:   White
Birth Place:   England
Home in 1860:   District 12, Baltimore, Maryland
Post Office:   Baltimore
Dwelling Number:   346
Family Number:   342
Occupation:   Copper Smelter


Plus Mary  31 b Wales. Sorry. Typo. Margaret!
George 5 b Maryland
Mary 3. Maryland
Elizabeth 11/12 Maryland

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Re: Found! George Garratt - Bristol, Somerset, England - 1830
« Reply #26 on: Saturday 02 July 22 02:39 BST (UK) »
The spelling  GARRATT is not what is on the census just posted by mckha489. GARRET
I thought the researcher said the wife's name was Margaret, not Mary.  They are not really interchangeable forenames.

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