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Re: Adam Clendennen and Dinah Switzer
« Reply #18 on: Tuesday 05 July 22 21:12 BST (UK) »
When was the first child of the couple born?  (Just to give a rough timeline for the marriage)
Where was the child born? 
Name? 
If they were following  the Irish naming pattern this might give a clue as to the birth order and the name of the grandparents of the children. 

Actually it would be very useful to have a list of the children in birth order.


Also baptisms if you found any.
Was Jane (1866) the last child?
Based on what we know so far, if the marriage happened in Ireland it was probably before 1845 and the ceremony was probably in a Church of Ireland.
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Re: Adam Clendennen and Dinah Switzer
« Reply #19 on: Tuesday 05 July 22 21:17 BST (UK) »
We Have only Found Children Born to Adam and Dinah in Kerry   They could have Married Elsewhere too   But havent been able to locate marriage anywhere in Ireland Taking into Consideration Spellings of Surnames too     Adam was apparently Church of Ireland/Protestant    And because of so many different Spellings of the Name Clendennen Including Glendinning Seems like a Ulster Connection
Ireland...Direct Lines
Down..Clendinnen
Clare..Haren, Ryan
Kerry...Doody
Tipperary...Morrisey
Wexford...Clendinnen, Steele, Ellis
Roscommon...Carley, Fallon

France...D'Acre, Went to Ireland some Changed to DEAKER

England Direct Lines
Norfolk: Clamp, Chesney, Atkins, streek
Essex: Mountford, Cornell, Philpott, Hawkes
Wiltshire: Stone, Annetts,

Watt, Toombs, Greville, Revell , Hindmarsh, Williams, Chivell, Collocott, Carle, Bayliss, Berry, Dewsbury, Dungey, Edwards, Gray, Haughton

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Re: Adam Clendennen and Dinah Switzer
« Reply #20 on: Tuesday 05 July 22 22:22 BST (UK) »
We Have only Found Children Born to Adam and Dinah in Kerry   They could have Married Elsewhere too   But havent been able to locate marriage anywhere in Ireland Taking into Consideration Spellings of Surnames too     Adam was apparently Church of Ireland/Protestant    And because of so many different Spellings of the Name Clendennen Including Glendinning Seems like a Ulster Connection

I must say this thought (they they came from somewhere else) crossed my mind mainly because I have not yet been able to find any Griffiths Valuation references to the family (well either family) in Co Kerry. 

Has anyone in the family taken a DNA test?

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Re: Adam Clendennen and Dinah Switzer
« Reply #21 on: Tuesday 05 July 22 22:27 BST (UK) »
I Found a Dinah Switzer  Parents Were William of Killaheen and Catherine (Rathkeale) Limerick  And Apparently the Switzers were Palantines  So Could Be Family
Dinah was Baptised 15 Dec 1811 In Rathkeale  Tho on Her Death in 1897 In Kerry She was aged 73  So would make her Birth circa 1824
Ireland...Direct Lines
Down..Clendinnen
Clare..Haren, Ryan
Kerry...Doody
Tipperary...Morrisey
Wexford...Clendinnen, Steele, Ellis
Roscommon...Carley, Fallon

France...D'Acre, Went to Ireland some Changed to DEAKER

England Direct Lines
Norfolk: Clamp, Chesney, Atkins, streek
Essex: Mountford, Cornell, Philpott, Hawkes
Wiltshire: Stone, Annetts,

Watt, Toombs, Greville, Revell , Hindmarsh, Williams, Chivell, Collocott, Carle, Bayliss, Berry, Dewsbury, Dungey, Edwards, Gray, Haughton


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Re: Adam Clendennen and Dinah Switzer
« Reply #22 on: Tuesday 05 July 22 22:38 BST (UK) »
It would be very useful to have the names & birth dates of the children of Adam and Dinah listed in birth order please. 

If the family followed traditional Irish naming patterns this could give us some clues. 

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Re: Adam Clendennen and Dinah Switzer
« Reply #23 on: Tuesday 05 July 22 23:10 BST (UK) »
It would be very useful to have the names & birth dates of the children of Adam and Dinah listed in birth order please. 

If the family followed traditional Irish naming patterns this could give us some clues. 

It might also help us to:
 1) estimate Dinah's age
 2) calculate when Dinah and Adam may have married.
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Re: Adam Clendennen and Dinah Switzer
« Reply #24 on: Tuesday 05 July 22 23:23 BST (UK) »
I Found a Dinah Switzer  Parents Were William of Killaheen and Catherine (Rathkeale) Limerick  And Apparently the Switzers were Palantines  So Could Be Family
Dinah was Baptised 15 Dec 1811 In Rathkeale  Tho on Her Death in 1897 In Kerry She was aged 73

1811 is too early for a woman who had 2 children born in 1860s.
Her stated age at death may have been an estimate.

Irish Palatine Association heritage centre is in Rathkeale.
https://irishpalatines.org
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Re: Adam Clendennen and Dinah Switzer
« Reply #25 on: Tuesday 05 July 22 23:45 BST (UK) »
More on Rathkeale Palatine connection.
https://www.familysearch.org/en/wiki/Rathkeale_Civil_Parish_County_Limerick_Ireland_Genealogy
The area was a settlement from the German Palatinate 1709-12.
Holy Trinity C. of I. graveyard is the final resting-place for many Palatines.
Embury and Heck Memorial Methodist Church, Ballingrave built 1766. It was 1 of 3 churches built for local Palatines after many of them became involved in the Methodist movement.
Methodism was originally part of the Anglican Church (Church of Ireland).
 
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Re: Adam Clendennen and Dinah Switzer
« Reply #26 on: Wednesday 06 July 22 00:14 BST (UK) »

I must say this thought (they they came from somewhere else) crossed my mind mainly because I have not yet been able to find any Griffiths Valuation references to the family (well either family) in Co Kerry. 


I looked at an earlier land record,  Tithe Applotment Books, compiled in 1820s -1830s.
https://www.nationalarchives.ie/article/tithe-applotment-records/
Search for Glend*nning in Kerry got 3 results. All were for Alexander, 2 spellings of surname,  in 2 civil parishes. He was one of the commissioners.
No Switzer entries for Kerry. 34 in Limerick.
Tithe Applotment Books included only those people whose land was assessed for payment of tithes. 
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