Henry Thomas/Charlotte Phillips-Marriage Record

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According to 1871 and the marriage of Henry to Charlotte Crawford in 1867, Henry snr is a Smith (tin, white).

If I have the right one in 1871 119 /72/32 his wife is now Sarah.

Here is their marriage, I think, where Henry snr is a Bachelor.

https://www.rootschat.com/links/01rog/

Is this them in 1881 census.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q273-DRVQ

James birth

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Births Mar 1881
Thomas    James Robert        St. Geo. H. Sq.    1a   462

GRO
THOMAS, JAMES  HENRY     STOKES 
GRO Reference: 1881  M Quarter in ST GEORGE HANOVER SQUARE  Volume 01A  Page 462


THOMAS, ANDREW  HENRY     mother's maiden name STOKES 
GRO Reference: 1879  M Quarter in ST GEORGE HANOVER SQUAREGRO Reference: 1881  M Quarter in ST GEORGE HANOVER SQUARE

Other possible birth's

THOMAS, WILLIAM       STOKES 
GRO Reference: 1870  S Quarter in ST GEORGE HANOVER SQUARE

THOMAS, HARRIET  ESTHER CATHERINE    STOKES 
GRO Reference: 1872  J Quarter in ST GEORGE HANOVER SQUARE

THOMAS, MATILDA  STOKES     STOKES 
GRO Reference: 1874  M Quarter in SAINT GEORGE HANOVER SQUARE  Volume 01A  Page 417

THOMAS, JOHN  THOMAS     STOKES 
GRO Reference: 1876  D Quarter in ST GEORGE HANOVER SQUARE  Volume 01A  Page 409

THOMAS, BLANCHE  LILY     STOKES 
GRO Reference: 1887  D Quarter in ST SAVIOUR SURREY  Volume 01D  Page 164

The address in the 1871 census is 7 New Peter Street

The 2 children highlighted in red were baptised in 1870 & 1876 respectively with an abode of 7, New Peter Street. Their parents Henry & Sarah--his occupation "Hawker"

All other children were baptised apart from Blanche in Westminster, parents Henry & Sarah Ann but no images available to show address or occupation.

John

Added,

Believe the marriage entry in 1868 is incorrect. Should read Henry is a widower and Sarah a spinster as her father is William Stokes?

1891 census

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:354X-FT2

Possible death of Henry c1822 & Sarah c1840

Name:   Henry Thomas
Gender:   Male
Death Age:   78
Record Type:   Death
Birth Date:   abt 1822
Death Date:   20 Feb 1900
Death Poor Law Union:   Saint Marylebone
Death Place:   St Marylebone, Westminster, England
Register Type:   Parish Register


Deaths Dec 1890 
Thomas    Sarah Ann    aged 50    St. Geo. H. Sq.    1a   358

[pegwill]

Hi Guys
Sorry it’s taken so long to get back to you.
Having assessed all the information I believe the following to be correct:

-   the marriage entry in 1868 is incorrect. Should read Henry is a widower and Sarah a spinster as her father is William Stokes – This would also make sense as Henry Thomas Jnr DOB 1848. The 1891 Census shows Henry a Widower at age 70 making Henry’s DOB 1821 – Close enough.

-   1861 54 /140/47 - Charlotte Thomas transcribed as 38 yrs. but could be 31 yrs so b about 1823 or 1830. Born ‘Hobbrey, Shropshire’ so as suggested probably Habberley, Shropshire. I could not find any ‘Charlotte’ born in Habberley around the two dates.

-   I could not find a Charlotte Thomas who died between 1848 (the birth of Henry Jnr) and 1868 (the date of Henry Sen 2nd Marriage).

-   I assumed that Henry Jnrs mother’s maiden name was Phillips (taken from the Government Register) as in 1848 as far as I could tell Henry Jnr was the only Henry Thomas born in London around that date.

-   I have tried to find any Charlotte who married a Henry Thomas Sen but the ages just do not come together.

So in conclusion, I still need to identify the maiden name of the ‘Charlotte’  who married Henry Thomas Sen giving birth to Henry Thomas Jnr in 1848,  as this it would appear to be the ancestral line I need to trace.
 
Thanks once again for your help. Any further thoughts would be much appreciated.
Regards
Pegwill