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What actually happened to James Ellerby/Ellarby?
« on: Saturday 09 July 22 18:25 BST (UK) »
Hello All,

I'm currently looking at a James Ellerby, sometimes spelt Ellarby.

I know that he was born in approximately 1806, around Keyingham in Yorkshire.

On the 30th October 1830, he married Rachel Bonfrey (although the record I have has been transcribed to Ponfrey)

He appears on the census with his family, in 1841, living in Keyingham. Working as a 'smith' it doesn't specify what as.

Piece   1222
Book   21
Folio   5
Page number 4

The couple appear to have had at least 4 children, George (b 1832), John (b 1837), Ann (b 1838), Elizabeth (b 1842).

I've lost track of him after that, he doesn't appear on any census with his family ever again.

What's strange to me, is that his wife Rachel appears on another 4 census, each time claiming that she is married, even though James is nowhere to be seen.

1851 - says married, working as grocer, living with her mum and her two daughters - Household schedule number 65
Piece   2364
Folio   71
Page number 21

1861, says married, working as grocer, living with two daughters and a lodger
Household schedule number 69
Piece   3598
Folio   59
Page number 13

1871, says married, working as dressmaker, living with a boarder and 4 year old grandson
Household schedule number 87
Piece   4798
Folio   60
Page number 17

1881, says married, on pension, living with the same grandson from above
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Piece   4785
Folio   54
Page number 9

I suppose James could have been somewhere else, but I can't find anyone on the census that matches up.

There is a death record for a James Ellerby, for September 1851, which is in that area which could be him.

But if he was dead, why did Rachel keep saying she was married? Maybe she misunderstood?

Another family tree on Ancestry says that he died in the Crimea in 1854, but they don't offer any sources to support that - and even if that was him, it doesn't really explain why Rachel kept saying she was married.

I'd appreciate your thoughts, is there something I have missed. Thank you
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Re: What actually happened to James Ellerby/Ellarby?
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 09 July 22 20:32 BST (UK) »
This doesn't answer your puzzle but here is a little extra on the children.

Baptisms
Keyingham, Yorkshire
Parents  James & Rachel Ellerby
Fathers occupation Blacksmith
Residence Keyingham
James 1831 died 1831
George 1832
William Richard 1834  died ??
John 1836
Ann 1837
Elizabeth 1839
Sarah Jane 1844 died 1844
Mary Ann 1844 died 1844

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Re: What actually happened to James Ellerby/Ellarby?
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 09 July 22 20:44 BST (UK) »
Directory of Keyingham 1851 has a James Ellerby listed under Grocers.
This would have been compiled the previous year.

1851 census his wife is listed as a grocer!

Same page is a Joseph Ellerby as a corn miller

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Re: What actually happened to James Ellerby/Ellarby?
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 09 July 22 21:17 BST (UK) »
Newspapers- Hull Packet 12 May 1865

April 29th at St Stephen's Church Hull Mr. ? Barton of Beverly to Ann eldest daughter of Mr. James Ellerby of Keyingham.


It doesn't say he is deceased. 


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Re: What actually happened to James Ellerby/Ellarby?
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 09 July 22 21:39 BST (UK) »
Leeds Intelligencer 20 July 1850 Ellison vs. Ellerby
- Ellerby being a blacksmith of Keyingham
Mr. Ellison an Iron Merchant of Leeds
Verdict was for Mr. Ellison - was owed money by Ellerby

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Re: What actually happened to James Ellerby/Ellarby?
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 09 July 22 21:42 BST (UK) »
This one seems to belong to the Corn Factor and Miller Ellerby's

Hull Packet 3 February 1871

Recently in New York John Ellerby late of Keyingham aged 34.


Did James perhaps go to USA?

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Re: What actually happened to James Ellerby/Ellarby?
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 09 July 22 21:46 BST (UK) »
The September death 1851 registered Sculcoates for James Ellerby was a aged 0

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Re: What actually happened to James Ellerby/Ellarby?
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 09 July 22 22:04 BST (UK) »
Stanwix,
I have this family in my extended Ellerby tree. My connection is through James' youngest sister, Maria, who married John Glasby in 1843 in Hull. I haven't looked at the Ellerbys for years but I have a note from another researcher dated June 2000:

"Family legend says that James took his youngest son to the Klondike, Canada during the gold rush, and eventually died in the Crimea."

The son referred to would be John born 1836. Perhaps he died in Canada? Or is he the one who died in New York?

It was John Burton who married Ann Ellerby in 1865.

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England:
Durham: COULSON, FENWICK, HUNTER, LOWES, NAYLOR, ROBSON
Norfolk: DEWING, OUGHTON, TAYLOR,
Lancashire: TWEDDLE
Ireland: KEATING, KIRBY, Limerick; NELSON, Donegal
Scotland: BENNIE, Glasgow; COOK, Renfrewshire; HENDERSON, Alloa/Dundee; HUNTER, Glasgow; KIRKWOOD, Alloa; LAMONT, Dalkeith; YOUNG, Glasgow
Switzerland: VOSTI, DELUBINI
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Re: What actually happened to James Ellerby/Ellarby?
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 09 July 22 22:14 BST (UK) »
By the time son George Ellerby married 15 April 1871 at St Thomas in Marylebone to Hannah Axford he says his father is James Elllerby - Farrier - deceased.

So we know he died before that date.