Look up BAPTISM of Ellen RIVERS, 1833-1840, in Newport

[jomcd967]

Ellen Kingswell, baptised 1 Mar 1840, Godshill (Near Newport) Hampshire, d/o David & Ann

(1841 has father David a shoemaker)

David Kingswell married Ann Ingram 1821 Godshill

[jwynne]

Why Rivers?

Because that was her maiden name, as shown on the 1861 and 1871 censuses, and the maiden name on her son's 1872 birth registration.

[jomcd967]

So are John Saunders Ford with wife Ellen (born Godshill Isle of Wight) and son Alfred Saunders Ford the wrong family?

[jwynne]

So are John Saunders Ford with wife Ellen (born Godshill Isle of Wight) and son Alfred Saunders Ford the wrong family?

If Ellen's maiden name was KINGSWELL, I'm afraid so.

FORD, ALFRED  SAUNDERS;
Mother's maiden name: KINGSWELL 
GRO Reference: 1871  J Quarter in STRAND  Volume 01B  Page 547

[jomcd967]

I still can’t see the Rivers as a maiden name…?

Hugh Rivers Ford when he marries gives his fathers name as Hugh Rivers Ford, clerk deceased.
If this is the correct Hugh, he is living with mother Ellen in 1891 & 1881 when she is widowed.

Can you please show the reference to the civil registration with MMN Rivers?

Thanks 

[Dundee]

Just to help identify the right person  The father of her child was supposedly Hugh FORD but I do not know what is on the birth certificate, perhaps jwynne can tell us.  They do not appear to have married.

FORD, -     
Mother's maiden surname: RIVERS     
GRO Reference: 1873  M Quarter in WANDSWORTH  Volume 01D  Page 585

In 1861 Ellen RIVERS is a barmaid in Egham, Surrey aged 26.  In 1871 she is Helen RIVERS, a housekeeper in Kingston, Surrey aged 30.  In 1881 she is Ellen FORD, a housekeeper in Brighton, Sussex aged 45.  Her birthplace is consistantly Newport, Isle of Wight.

I cannot see a baptism and there doesn't seem to be anyone with that surname living on the Isle of Wight in 1841.

Debra 

[jwynne]

Just to help identify the right person  The father of her child was supposedly Hugh FORD but I do not know what is on the birth certificate, perhaps jwynne can tell us.  They do not appear to have married.

FORD, -     
Mother's maiden surname: RIVERS     
GRO Reference: 1873  M Quarter in WANDSWORTH  Volume 01D  Page 585

In 1861 Ellen RIVERS is a barmaid in Egham, Surrey aged 26.  In 1871 she is Helen RIVERS, a housekeeper in Kingston, Surrey aged 30.  In 1881 she is Ellen FORD, a housekeeper in Brighton, Sussex aged 45.  Her birthplace is consistantly Newport, Isle of Wight.

I cannot see a baptism and there doesn't seem to be anyone with that surname living on the Isle of Wight in 1841.

Debra 

That's what I have.
She may not have been married, but she said she was Ellen RIVERS from Newport in 2 censuses when she was single,
The fact that Hugh Rivers FORD's marriage certificate said his father's name was also Hugh Rivesr FORD (including middle name) is clearly very unlikely, but people put what they know (or what they're told) or what they want on marriage certificates. It doesn't mean it's correct.