Cuckoo Road, Spalding

[consort]

Hello Helen,

I run Welbys Farm on Horseshoe Road. I understand that it was owned by George Welby. I know nothing of the Chappell conection. The Lincs (Holland) County Council purchased the farm in 1893, which I think co incided with George's death. They paid £3750 for 88 acres. It was originally called Fen Farm, but was renamed after its previous owner.
We came to the farm in 1959, & were told that our official address was Cuckoo Road, Spalding. It was still Cuckoo Road in 1970, but was joined to Horseshoe Road at a later date.
I personally demolished the farmhouse & buildings

[An65]

Hate to be cheeky but I wonder if anyone has any idea where Jockey Drove, Pinchbeck West was abt 1901? My grandad was born there........

[consort]

Jockey Drove is the same as Starlode Drove, W Pinchbeck.

Hope this helps

[An65]

Many Thanks x

[armadale]

Sorry but I was wondering whether anyone might be able to help me.

I am doing research on history of the Holmes family from the Spalding area. In particular I wondered whether anyone knows of the Holmes family that used to have a potato farm in Spalding in the 1930s. And whether someone called Cyril Holmes (b. maybe born around 1910?) lived there.

I found an online Kelly's Directory (1919) and it says a James Holmes, farmer, lived at Clay Lake – which from the aerial map looks semi-rural. I wondered whether anyone remembers that place. I checked and there seems to be a potato farm around there even now - but owned by a different family.

I found out that in 1934 a Cyril Arthur Holmes lived in Carrington Road, Spalding and was a railway clerk (presumably at local station?). He was married to someone called Helen Garwell (there are a couple of Garwells locally - one is a corn and flour merchant at 1 High Street and the other is a publican called Banjamin Garwell at the Cross Keys Inn). They had a son called Michael Holmes (b. early 1930s) who apparently later joined the army. Think this part of the family moved away to Kettering. I’m only guessing, but I think these Holmes might be related to the Clay Lake potato farmers who lived nearby. Can anybody help? Or know who to ask?

Sorry to be so speculative. Any advice or local knowledge very much appreciated.

Many thanks.

[gosbertonboy]

On 9th May 2010 "Armadale" wrote <<I am doing research on history of the Holmes family from the Spalding area. In particular I wondered whether anyone knows of the Holmes family that used to have a potato farm in Spalding in the 1930s. And whether someone called Cyril Holmes (b. maybe born around 1910?) lived there.

I found an online Kelly's Directory (1919) and it says a James Holmes, farmer, lived at Clay Lake – which from the aerial map looks semi-rural. I wondered whether anyone remembers that place. I checked and there seems to be a potato farm around there even now - but owned by a different family.

I found out that in 1934 a Cyril Arthur Holmes lived in Carrington Road, Spalding and was a railway clerk (presumably at local station?). He was married to someone called Helen Garwell (there are a couple of Garwells locally - one is a corn and flour merchant at 1 High Street and the other is a publican called Banjamin Garwell at the Cross Keys Inn). They had a son called Michael Holmes (b. early 1930s) who apparently later joined the army. Think this part of the family moved away to Kettering. I’m only guessing, but I think these Holmes might be related to the Clay Lake potato farmers who lived nearby. Can anybody help? Or know who to ask? >>

Armadale, you might already know this - the 1911 Census includes in the family of Arthur George (& wife Sarah) HOLMES several children including "Cyril Arthur" aged 10 years(therefore born abt 1901). Cyril's father worked as a << Railway Goods Guard >> for the Midland(s) & Gt Northern railway. They lived at what looks like 43 Havelock street, Spalding.

Regarding the James HOLMES & Clay Lake in the '11 census a 30 y/o single man farmed << Clay Lake Farm, Spalding >>. This James "might be a James HOLMES in my own tree but he is 3 years too young! Also My James had been in S Africa (building railways coincidentally) but so far I've not been able to track (no pun) down when he left and returned to England but I know that he married  in about June 1912 in Spalding area.

Perhaps this will help you?

[Geordie daughter]

In 1913 Daisy Chappell (b. 1889) of Pode Hole married Samuel William Creek (b.1888) who was a horseman on a farm, and they were living at "Cuckoo" by 1939, if this is of any interest/use to anyone who has posted on this thread. Samuel's family were at Cuckoo Bridge in 1901, and his father was a farm labourer.

[phil57]

May be a bit late now, but I found this page helpful whilst researching my Spalding and Pinchbeck ancestors:

https://www.heritagesouthholland.co.uk/article/did-you-know-series-origins-of-spalding-road-names/