Mordant

[J B]

Hi Sinann & Heywood, Many Thanks, for your help first I am helping an old friend with his research some of this family emigrated to England 1860s, George married Bridget Power here in Waterford 1876, given his parents' names as John Mordant and his mother as Catherine Mallen/Mallon, he was born in Wexford about 1846, George's only living relatives now are living are in Co Killkenny. Many thanks for your help JB

[heywood]

Thanks.
How do you know about Brother Denis?
Where do you have him?

Are neither of those deaths - John or Catherine correct?

Added

Where did the family move to in England.

What relation to George were they?

[J B]

Hi Heyland George's grandson named Murphy, from Co Kilkenny has from his mother that many of her Mordant family all from Gorey and Enniscorthy Co Wexford some died young and others emigrated to York, England about 1860/70s what I am told is George's grandfather was (1) Denis Mordant, his son (2) John Mordant, his son (3) George, his son (4) Patrick Mordaunt, died 1960s he was the last of the Mordaunts here Kilkenny/Waterford. Many Thanks, JB

[heywood]

Have you looked at English censuses for the family?

All I can see is:
1851 2336 /120/3
Sheffield
George Mordaunt 51 yrs Picture Dealer b Gorey
Wife Ann Maria b Sheffield plus two children

This George can also be found in 1871

There is also a nun in York in 1891 to 1911
Elizabeth  Mordaunt b 1867

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1867/03500/2286470.pdf
Parents Patrick and Ellen Crowe

One would imagine that a nun in the family would be remembered.

What exactly are you looking for here? You have George and his family after marriage.

[heywood]

Mordant/Mordaunts in Tithe Applotment Books 1820s/30s
https://www.rootschat.com/links/01rpo/

Griffiths Valuation abt 1850s also has Mordant/Mordaunt. Unfortunately the website Ask about Ireland is not downloading properly for me at the moment but hopefully this works.
https://www.rootschat.com/links/01rpp/

[J B]

Hi Heywood, I am just looking for the Wexford Mordants and stuck with a George Mordant married a Catherine and a John Mordant married another Catherine as we have only one death of a Catherine 1871, which one is our George? for the records of Gorey only start at about 1845, the pub in Mayor's Walk, Waterford he started in 1895, is still going but as (The Cans Bar) only sells can beer. Many Thanks Again JB

[heywood]

Thanks. More questions -sorry.
Do you have his mother’s name from the church record?
You say he has a brother Dennis? Where does that information come from and where do you have Dennis?
We know that George’s father was John from the marriage certificate but you say you are told that John’s father was Denis and his father was George.
Is there any record to show this?

Any mention of the nun, Elizabeth or which relatives (names) went to York?

[heywood]

There is the death of Denis Mordaunt, 80 yrs in 1868.
You could purchase a photocopy of that record to see if there are clues or wait as it may be online later this year.

Have you read through this?
http://www.mordaunt.me.uk/irish.html

[heywood]

This refers to Denis who died in 1868
“ Denis Mordaunt (1783-1868) was baptised in the parish of Kilanerin, near Gorey, and, as Denis Morning, he married Mary Byrne (1791-1851) in Avoca, Co Wicklow, in 1813. He held about 30 acres in Ballintlea, and may also have held land at Clone, near Monamolin. He died in 1868 and was buried in Boolavogue.”

And is from here re Penny Mordaunt, the politician.
https://www.rootschat.com/links/01rpr/

That, in turn, has its information from the Mordaunt  site I linked earlier.