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Offline Jason Jase

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Re: Stuck on Finding the right cooper's???
« Reply #9 on: Friday 29 July 22 22:57 BST (UK) »
As for the mothers Maiden name my 2x great grandmother as I got named "Martha Choat" parents (my 3x great grandparents) were Benjamin Choat and Mary M Winch.

So why would Martha maiden name be listed as her mothers maiden name? Any ideas?

1881 census
Piece   1804
Folio   122
Page number   3

she has her name as Choat???

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Re: Stuck on Finding the right cooper's???
« Reply #10 on: Friday 29 July 22 23:02 BST (UK) »
See replies 6 & 8

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Re: Stuck on Finding the right cooper's???
« Reply #11 on: Friday 29 July 22 23:11 BST (UK) »
Quote from: mckha489 on Friday 29 July 22 22:03 BST (UK)
The birth registration of Daisy Lily Cooper has a mother’s maiden name of WINCH not CHOAT

    Name:   Mother's Maiden Surname:
COOPER, DAISY  LILY     WINCH 
GRO Reference: 1895  M Quarter in HALSTEAD  Volume 04A  Page 695

Have you got her birth certificate? 


Strange you are right I found Daisy's official birth certificate (not a copy) I found it in my grandfathers (Daisy's daughter's husbands) desk that was imported across the world to where I live.

on Daisy's birth cert under mothers name it says "Martha Cooper formally Winch"

Does this mean Mary M Winch is Martha's mother but Benjamin Choat may not be the father??? or did they just have her before getting married which was a bad thing back then?

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Re: Stuck on Finding the right cooper's???
« Reply #12 on: Friday 29 July 22 23:12 BST (UK) »

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Re: Stuck on Finding the right cooper's???
« Reply #13 on: Friday 29 July 22 23:20 BST (UK) »
Quote from: Jason Jase on Friday 29 July 22 21:52 BST (UK)
Benjamin Cooper born October ?? 1882 / 83 in Halstead, Essex, England. died ??? married ??? kids??? I have nothing of him after 1911 census where he was living with his parents in Ridgewell.
I found a bunch of people with the same name and can't figure out which is the right person.
Benjamin COOPER born 2 Apr 1882 – he never married.
In the late 1930s, he is an inmate (‘incapacitated) in a hospital in Saffron Waldon, Essex.
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Re: Stuck on Finding the right cooper's???
« Reply #14 on: Friday 29 July 22 23:25 BST (UK) »
 etc[/quote]

Looking at electoral rolls and newspapers I think they ran the King’s Arms at Lymington.

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That is great my mom said something awhile back about them running some resauraunt / Bar / pub or something.
so that lines up. :)

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Re: Stuck on Finding the right cooper's???
« Reply #15 on: Friday 29 July 22 23:47 BST (UK) »
thank you Neale1961 in regards to finding Benjamin Cooper in the Hospital in the 1930's

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Re: Stuck on Finding the right cooper's???
« Reply #16 on: Saturday 30 July 22 00:07 BST (UK) »

Birth registration for
   COOPER, JOHN       Mother- TURNER 
   GRO Reference: 1857  M Quarter in HALSTEAD  Volume 04A  Page 312
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Thank you I can now Cite the source of John's Birth

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Re: Stuck on Finding the right cooper's???
« Reply #17 on: Saturday 30 July 22 00:23 BST (UK) »
Okay so in regards to
Neale1961 post 8

I had to read it a few times to get it... I had them as her parents the

the Lucinda is
Lucinda Underwood born about 1810 • Budbrooke Essex England. Died  APRIL 1886 • Halstead, Essex, England

James Winch born Abt. 1801 • Ridgwell, Essex, England died SEP 1876 • Halstead, Essex, England
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