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Help needed with my 3xgreatgrandfather William Bourne b 1782
« on: Monday 01 August 22 12:21 BST (UK) »
I'm trying to find a christening record for the above person. I have him in the 1851 census living in Alveley, Shropshire and he lists his birthplace as Mitton, in the 1861 census it's Stousport (sic). Just to confuse things, in the 1841 census his birth year works out as 1786!

Any hints gratefully received.

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Richard.

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Re: Help needed with my 3xgreatgrandfather William Bourne b 1782
« Reply #1 on: Monday 01 August 22 12:29 BST (UK) »
Have you tried www.familysearch.org
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Re: Help needed with my 3xgreatgrandfather William Bourne b 1782
« Reply #2 on: Monday 01 August 22 12:38 BST (UK) »
Ages in the 1841 census were rounded down to the nearest 5yrs.  Somebody aged 64 would be shown as 60

Work with his birth years on the 1851 & 1861
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Re: Help needed with my 3xgreatgrandfather William Bourne b 1782
« Reply #3 on: Monday 01 August 22 12:43 BST (UK) »
Ages in the 1841 census were rounded down to the nearest 5yrs.  Somebody aged 64 would be shown as 60

Work with his birth years on the 1851 & 1861
I never knew that! He's listed as 55 with his wife aged 60.

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Re: Help needed with my 3xgreatgrandfather William Bourne b 1782
« Reply #4 on: Monday 01 August 22 12:56 BST (UK) »
So he could have been between 55 & 59 & she could have been between 60 & 64

The 1841 guidelines re rounding only applied to ages 16 & above but not all enumerators followed them so it is possible to see entries showing the actual age. 

Did he die in 1870?  If so - he is shown as aged 90 so birthyear around 1780.  He was 79 in 1861
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Re: Help needed with my 3xgreatgrandfather William Bourne b 1782
« Reply #5 on: Monday 01 August 22 13:06 BST (UK) »
This is the only birth in the age range showing on family search but doubt it's him

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Re: Help needed with my 3xgreatgrandfather William Bourne b 1782
« Reply #6 on: Monday 01 August 22 13:09 BST (UK) »
Carole,

Thanks for that. I have seen that death record but I have no certainty that it is him. It would help if he was older as it would bring his age closer to that of his wife...

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Re: Help needed with my 3xgreatgrandfather William Bourne b 1782
« Reply #7 on: Monday 01 August 22 13:17 BST (UK) »
After a bit of googling on Genuki we have this info;

"LOWER MITTON, a chapelry in the parish of Kidderminster, hundred of Halfshire, county Worcester, adjoining the town of Stourport. It has some corn mills noticed by Leland. Haresfoot trefoil grows on the common. The Staffordshire and Worcestershire canal here joins the Severn, and by uniting that river with the Trent affords an extended line of inland navigation. There are a worsted yarn factory, an iron foundry, tanneries, and vinegar works. The living is a perpetual curacy* [the asterisk denotes that there is a parsonage and glebe belonging to the living] in the diocese of Worcester, value £170, in the patronage of the vicar. The church, dedicated to St. Michael, is a brick edifice erected in 1790.

So if I read this correctly no Church in Lower Mitton when William was born.
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Re: Help needed with my 3xgreatgrandfather William Bourne b 1782
« Reply #8 on: Monday 01 August 22 14:07 BST (UK) »
After a bit of googling on Genuki we have this info;

"LOWER MITTON, a chapelry in the parish of Kidderminster, hundred of Halfshire, county Worcester, adjoining the town of Stourport. It has some corn mills noticed by Leland. Haresfoot trefoil grows on the common. The Staffordshire and Worcestershire canal here joins the Severn, and by uniting that river with the Trent affords an extended line of inland navigation. There are a worsted yarn factory, an iron foundry, tanneries, and vinegar works. The living is a perpetual curacy* [the asterisk denotes that there is a parsonage and glebe belonging to the living] in the diocese of Worcester, value £170, in the patronage of the vicar. The church, dedicated to St. Michael, is a brick edifice erected in 1790.

So if I read this correctly no Church in Lower Mitton when William was born.

Interesting, I wonder where they would have travelled to to get baptised?

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Pratt, Smith, Jay, Wyatt - Essex
Dickens, Betteridge - London, Oxfordshire
Perrins, Bourne, Hickman, Fletcher - Aylesbury, Stoke upon Trent