LAY-THOMAS marriage 1918

[Heatha]

I am trying to discover what happened to Lizzie LAY (birth registered Q3 1898 in Wandsworth registration district; baptised at St Bartholomew, Battersea on 3rd August 1898; 1901 living with grandmother in Battersea, born Battersea; 1911 living at 21 Arliss Road, Lavender Hill, Battersea). I am fairly sure that she married Charles E Thomas Q2 1918 in Wandsworth registration district. However, after that I can find no trace, This is the only male THOMAS to female LAY marriage registered in England and Wales between 1895 and 1936. There are two births - Margaret G THOMAS in Q4 1918 and a male THOMAS in 1923 - both with mother's maiden name LAY and both in London. I cannot find them in 1921 or in 1939. 

Can anyone think of anything that I haven't explored yet that might help me to verify the marriage without sending off for the certificate or find them records after 1918? (I have looked at FreeReg.)

[ShaunJ]

The 1918 birth was Margaret Gladys Thomas per the GRO online index.

Baptism  at St Paul Brixton 24 November 1918: parents Charles Edwin Thomas, a soldier, and Betty. Child born 26 October 1918. Abode 25 Solon Road.

[Heatha]

Thank you very much. That doesn't match the only viable marriage record, unless Lizzie started calling herself Betty! I had inadvertently omitted to check the GRO index to obtain her middle name. The first marriage registered for a Betty LAY was in 1943. Maybe I will just have to bite the bullet and order the marriage certificate. Lizzie would have been my father's fourth cousin so not a close relative. Thanks for the baptism information. That will help if I do have the correct marriage.

[jonw65]

A database on ancestry called
Detroit, Michigan, U.S., Border Crossings and Passenger and Crew Lists, 1905-1963

9 July 1919
Betty Thomas
Age 20
Born Battosy? London
Accompanied by husband Charles and Child
Quebec 7 July 1919 SS Metagama

9 July 1919
Charles Thomas
Age 25
Occupation Farmer
Born Springfield MO USA
Accompanied by wife Betty and Child

Charles' father seems to be Wm Thomas, Springfield

10 July 191?
Margaret Gladys Thomas
Born London
Age 8 according to ancestry, but it may be 8 months
Accompanied by Mother Betty
Ancestry says 1918, but no other Thomas on that date, perhaps it was 1919

[jonw65]

Quebec 7 July 1919 SS Metagama

Canada Passenger Lists, 1881-1922, on FamilySearch
Lizzie Thomas
Age 20
July 1919, Quebec
Ship Metagama
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:2HGC-895

Image
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-X95P-VT

Infant with her

[jonw65]

UK Outward
27 June 1919
Metagama, from Liverpool to Quebec
Mrs L Thomas
Inf Thomas

So it seems Charles was not actually accompanying them on the voyage from England.

[jonw65]

FamilySearch
United States Border Crossings from Canada to United States, 1895-1956
24 July 1919
Betty Thomas
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XLMB-J3G

Charles Thomas
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XP9B-S48

Margaret Gladys Thomas
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FS83-H25

[jonw65]

More images on FamilySearch!
Do they work?
Vermont, St. Albans Canadian Border Crossings, 1895-1954

7 July 1919
Betty Thomas, 20
She names an aunt!
Mrs? Isabella Lay, 25 Sola Road, Brixton, England.
Maybe meaning the address on Margaret's baptism?
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-L9DQ-5SY6

Charles Thomas
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-L9DQ-5SHH

Margaret G Thomas, yes she is 8 months old
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-99DQ-GW3M-V

[jonw65]

7 July 1919
Betty Thomas, 20
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-L9DQ-5SY6

A nice description of her there
5ft 5" tall, brown hair and brown eyes.

Where are they in 1920/1?