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Royal Engineers, 66th Field Company 1915 & Basra War Memorial
« on: Sunday 07 August 22 19:29 BST (UK) »
Hi,

What records would help me to find out where a relative was killed in action (1915)?

William Currie McREADY, was killed in action on 9th August 1915 and I've found details of the date of death, company etc. via the Commonwealth War Graves Commissions (GWGC) casualty details.  The cemetery is recorded as: BASRA. 

William was a Sapper, 66th Field Coy, Royal Engineers.  Service No 40619

There's a note on GWGC record that "Commonwealth forces who died in the operations in Mesopotamia from Autumn 1914 to the end of August 1921 and whose graves are not known" are remembered there. 

It's coming up to the anniversary of his death and I am interested in finding out more about the circumstances.  Is there a way to find out which battle he would have been involved in?

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Bella55

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Re: Royal Engineers, 66th Field Company 1915 & Basra War Memorial
« Reply #1 on: Monday 08 August 22 05:43 BST (UK) »
Welcome to RootsChat!

66th Field Company Royal Engineers were at Gallipoli, Sari Bair, 8-10 Aug 1915, part of the 10th (Irish) Division

http://www.reubique.com/66fc.htm


Battle of Sari Bair:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Sari_Bair


10th (Irish) Division:

http://www.longlongtrail.co.uk/army/order-of-battle-of-divisions/10th-irish-division/


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Re: Royal Engineers, 66th Field Company 1915 & Basra War Memorial
« Reply #2 on: Monday 08 August 22 09:06 BST (UK) »
Bella55,

What source are you using to tell you he was with 66 Fd Coy? Clearly if this was his unit in 1915 and they were in Gallipoli, he must have been detached to the Mesopotamian campaign. But it is more likely that he was not with 66 Fd Coy at the time of his death. Unlike infantry soldiers who tend to stay with their regiment throughout their career, Royal Engineer soldiers can be moved between units quite regularly through what is known is trickle posting.

In August 1915 General Townshend's force in Mesopotamia was mainly the 6th (Poona) Division, which had only minimal sapper support in the form of 17 Coy and 22 Coy 3rd Sappers and Miners, who were Indian troops. It seems unlikely that a private soldier would have been detached to an Indian Engineer unit unless he had very specialised skills not found among the Indian troops.

August 1915 was actually a relatively quiet period in the Mesopotamian campaign, between the battle of Amarah in the Spring and the battle of Kut, operations for which began in September 1915. It is possible that he died of wounds he sustained in earlier fighting as the medical facilities were very poor and many soldiers who would otherwise have survived, died of diseases like dysentery. However since his grave has not been located, perhaps August is just an approximation of his date of death.

Unfortunately the War Diary for the 6th Poona Division does not appear to be at TNA. You may need to read some of the accounts of the campaign to get a better idea of where and how he died. Possibly start with General Townshend's own self-serving account: Townshend K.C.B., D.S.O, Major General Sir Charles. My Campaign in Mesopotamia. 1920 London: Thornton Butterworth which you can find on the Internet Archive. Lots of other useful references at the end of this article: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Townshend_(British_Army_officer)

Just a random thought. General Townshend was a former Royal Engineer officer and traditionally his batman would have come from his old Corps. Could Pte McReady have been on his personal staff?

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Re: Royal Engineers, 66th Field Company 1915 & Basra War Memorial
« Reply #3 on: Monday 08 August 22 09:08 BST (UK) »
The Register of Soldiers' Effects confirms that he died in the Dardanelles
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Re: Royal Engineers, 66th Field Company 1915 & Basra War Memorial
« Reply #4 on: Monday 08 August 22 09:15 BST (UK) »
I wonder why he is commemorated at Basra? Very strange. Anyway,  Bella may find more details here in the diaries of Maj A S Holme RE, who was commanding 66th Field Company in 1915: https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C628081

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Re: Royal Engineers, 66th Field Company 1915 & Basra War Memorial
« Reply #5 on: Monday 08 August 22 09:20 BST (UK) »
Photo here - also says Gallipoli but source not stated https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/115377827/william-currie-mcready

HOWEVER His MIC and the medal roll record that he disembarked in Egypt on 6 August 1915. KiA 3 days later.
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Re: Royal Engineers, 66th Field Company 1915 & Basra War Memorial
« Reply #6 on: Monday 08 August 22 09:34 BST (UK) »
Worth contacting the CWGC to investigate further.

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Re: Royal Engineers, 66th Field Company 1915 & Basra War Memorial
« Reply #7 on: Monday 08 August 22 18:19 BST (UK) »
Thanks toned, AndyJ2022, ShaunJ and Kloumann for the replies - much appreciated.  It was my first post on Rootschat so I wasn't sure how all this would work.  I had a look at some of the links to details of the various battles and can't imagine how difficult life in those conditions must have been.

William was previously a miner in Fife so was used to a tough life but I wonder what it was like to go from that to war abroad. He's not in my direct line (brother of my great-grandmother) but I felt that I wanted to know more about him.  His wife later remarried and moved to Australia with his 4 children who were very young when William died. I've definitely seen a document in my searches about a widow's pension but didn't save it at the time (lessons learned as a newbie to family history research!).

I'll try to load images of some of the info I have but won't be able to do that for a day or two.
Meantime: the GWGC pages where I found some details is at: https://www.cwgc.org/find-records/find-war-dead/casualty-details/1657662/william-mcready/

thanks again for the help,
Bella 55

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Re: Royal Engineers, 66th Field Company 1915 & Basra War Memorial
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 09 August 22 12:16 BST (UK) »
Hi Bella,

I would definitely suggest following Kloumann's advice about raising this anomaly with the CWGC. I really can't think of a logical explanation for why someone killed at Gallipoli should be commemorated in Basra. If you don't think it's worth it, let me know and I will take it up with them just in order to set the record straight, something the CWGC are very keen to do even after a century has passed.