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William IDDENDEN b1840 Wye Kent
« on: Monday 08 August 22 17:15 BST (UK) »
Hello Everyone, looking for a little bit of help please. I am researching a friend's family tree and I have hit a brick wall.
William Iddenden bc1840 in Wye, parents Henry and Sarah. I have found him on 1841 and 1851 census living at home.
In 1881 I believe he gets married to Mary Ann Susan Bundock b1862 and has 13 children (info taken from 1911 census)
I can't find him on the 1861,1871 and 1881 census.
I did find a newspaper article (1903) referring to a William Iddenden having 22 children in Herne Bay, which would be the correct location.
It is possible that he could have been married before, but I just don't know.
Any help would be most appreciated.
Thanks very much,
Carrie xx
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Re: William IDDENDEN b1840 Wye Kent
« Reply #1 on: Monday 08 August 22 17:26 BST (UK) »
The 1881 marriage cert would show if he was a widower
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Re: William IDDENDEN b1840 Wye Kent
« Reply #2 on: Monday 08 August 22 17:30 BST (UK) »
In 1881 marriage he was a bachelor age 36 - occ Gunner in R.A
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Re: William IDDENDEN b1840 Wye Kent
« Reply #3 on: Monday 08 August 22 17:32 BST (UK) »
Given his occupation - that may be why you can't find him in earlier censuses
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Re: William IDDENDEN b1840 Wye Kent
« Reply #4 on: Monday 08 August 22 17:35 BST (UK) »
There is a Fold 3 entry for admission to the Royal Hosp Chelsea 11.10.1881.  Also some Court Martial entries
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Re: William IDDENDEN b1840 Wye Kent
« Reply #5 on: Monday 08 August 22 19:26 BST (UK) »
A little bit of background info only.

His parents were Henry Iddenden and Sarah Haywood They married at the parish church Thanington on the 12th October 1839. He was a bachelor of full age, occupation Labourer, Father William Iddenden occupation-Labourer. Sarah, spinster, full age, father James Haywood, occupation Labourer. Witnesses Wm Anderson & Frances Iddenden.

Probably his birth (male child on Gro index) (East Ashford covers Wye)

IDDENDEN,  -      mother's maiden name HAYWARD 
GRO Reference: 1840  D Quarter in EAST ASHFORD KENT  Volume 05  Page 9

Suspect that in 1861 he was in Malta as a Private with his regiment 2nd Battalion 3rd foot East Kent-The Buffs, Service number 1099.

He is not to be confused with another William Iddenden born Wye 1849 whose parents were George an Charlotte, he too served in the military.

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Re: William IDDENDEN b1840 Wye Kent
« Reply #6 on: Monday 08 August 22 22:15 BST (UK) »

I did find a newspaper article (1903) referring to a William Iddenden having 22 children in Herne Bay, which would be the correct location.

It is possible that he could have been married before, but I just don't know.


Is this the article?

William Iddenden whose progeny has numbered twenty two applied to the County Justices at Canterbury for a vaccination exemption certificate in respect of his daughter, Mary Alice born July 9th this year.
Reasons for applying lost three children, one at four, another seven, and the third at eight and that he had a conscientious objection to vaccination.
He had married twice; by his first wife he had fifteen children and the second seven.
The magistrates contrary to the usual custom asked no questions, but granted the application almost immediately - the applicant was stated to be a Herne Bay man.
Canterbury Journal, Kentish Times and Farmers' Gazette dated 17 October 1903

IDDENDEN, MAY  ALICE   mmn BUNDOCK
1903  S Quarter in BLEAN  Volume 02A  Page 999   

Edit to add

Looking at the children’s names from 1891/1901 census
GRO indexes have these birth entries same mmn
Isabella Florence birth registered as Bundock (mmn blank) 1880
Not found a birth entry for Thomas from 1901 census or Rose A from 1891c
There is birth Canterbury 1887 Rose Ann Iddenden mmn Ovenden  ???

1883 William James (mmn Bundock)
1885 Percy (mmn Bundock)
1890 Violet (mmn Bundock)
1892 Daisy (mmn Bundock)
1895 John Alfred (mmn Bundock)
1897 Stephen Walter (mmn Bundock)
1898 Jesse (mmn Bundock)
1899 Lily (mmn Bundock)
1901 Mary Ann Susan (mmn Bundock)
1903 May Alice (mmn Bundock)
1905 Ethel Ada (GRO index Ida Ethel mmn Bundock)
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Re: William IDDENDEN b1840 Wye Kent
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 09 August 22 09:00 BST (UK) »
This might be him in 1861 and why he is missing from the censuses:-

British Army, Worldwide Index 1861
Year 1861
William Iddenden
Service number 1099
Rank Private
Unit or Regiment 2nd Btn 3rd Foot (East Kent-The Buffs)

Royal Hospital Chelsea Pensioner Admissions and Discharges, 1715-1925
William Iddenden
Pension Admission or Examination Age: 40
Birth Year: abt 1841
Birth Place: Wye, Ashford, Kent
Pension Admission or Examination Date: 11 Oct 1881
Regiment: 2 Bde R.A
Rank: G.
Regimental Number: 4854

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Re: William IDDENDEN b1840 Wye Kent
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 09 August 22 09:29 BST (UK) »
David, see previous replies 4# & 5#

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