How many pubs in Ffrwd?

[ShaunJ]

One more publican - William Sanderson (who was foreman of the jury) had the Cross Foxes at Pentre Broughton.

[ShaunJ]

But what puzzled me about this story was I'm sure there was never a railway there

It was the Frood Ironworks branch line according to the inquest report

[chris_49]

But what puzzled me about this story was I'm sure there was never a railway there

It was the Frood Ironworks branch line according to the inquest report

News to me. No trace of it on my old maps - it can only have gone along the Nant-y-Ffrith valley, very wooded nowadays.

[ShaunJ]

You can see the branch line here:  https://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/side-by-side/#zoom=16&lat=53.08626&lon=-3.03989&layers=6&right=ESRIWorld

[Eidde]

Thanks to everyone for all the replies - could spend a long time playing with the side by side map!
There was a Black Horse in Top Road, Summer Hill (now demolished) - too far from Pentre Broughton to be the one mentioned?

[chris_49]

You can see the branch line here:  https://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/side-by-side/#zoom=16&lat=53.08626&lon=-3.03989&layers=6&right=ESRIWorld

Thanks very much for the link - this site will give me many a happy hour exploring old maps.

Interesting that Yord is marked and that the Ffrwd Inn and what's presumably the said ironworks are near, reached by a rail branch from much further south than I thought. So what was then known as Ffrwd and in Denbighshire now seems to be called Yord, and the Ffrwd name is reserved for the area around the Red Lion, now "The Ffrwd" and mostly in Flintshire.

[ShaunJ]

The most recent mention I can find of the Black Horse is in 1899 when the landlord was a William Crawford. In the 1901 census he's a publican at 38 Hill Street, Pentre Broughton.

The landlord in the mid- 1860's was John Parry. He is one of the publicans on the inquest jury.

[Maiden Stone]

 Or were publicans over-represented among property owners in the region (I’m assuming jurors in those days had to be property owners)?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juries_in_England_and_Wales#History

https://www.academia.edu/38812981/Restricting_the_Juror_Franchise_in_England_and Wales
1919 Sex Discrimination Act 1919 (Removal) ended the ban on women serving on trial juries.
"... jury service is a duty of citizenship, a duty flowing from the extended voting rights secured by the representation of the People Act 1918 ..."

The inquest happened between the First (1832) and Second (1867) Reform Acts. The franchise was still restricted to a minority of men and there was a property qualification. Names of voters were in poll books, similar to electoral registers. Information in poll books varied. Some showed occupations, some residences, some qualification for franchise.
https://electoralregisters.org.uk     

[Andrew Tarr]

But what puzzled me about this story was I'm sure there was never a railway there

It was the Frood Ironworks branch line according to the inquest report

There was not only a railway, but a fragment of a canal was dug in that neighbourhood when the Ellesmere Canal still intended to reach Chester via the Wrexham area, around 1800.  I don't think it ever carried more than a few boats, and they couldn't have travelled far !