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William Ruddock
« on: Sunday 14 August 22 03:07 BST (UK) »
Hi all. Looking for a bit of help on this man, his name is William Ruddock. Last name has also been down as Ruddocks, Reddick(s) or Riddick(s).

Died February 26th 1876 in Annbank, death cert says he was 98 years old but I think this is a stretch. I think he was most likely early in his early nineties. He was born in Ireland, and according to his death cert and his daughters marriage certificate he was married to an Ann Jess/Jefs. Ann is listed as living when her daughter Grace got married in 1858, but is deceased by the time William died in 1876.

William and Ann had 4 children that I know of
Hugh (1811-1867)
Alexander (1818-?)
Jane (1822-1909)
John (1823-?)
Samuel (1827-1863)
Grace (1834-1919)

Some trees say that Ann was born in 1803 and died 1850, but they have little to no sources, and even if she was born in 1803 I highly doubt she gave birth to Hugh at 8 years old.
The only record I seem to have found of Ann is her listed as the mother on her son, Alexanders baptism in Ireland, and her other son, John's baptism in 1823.

Graces 1919 death cert says parents are William Reddick and Annie Campbell. Maybe Grace is actually old Williams granddaughter, and William had a son called William who also married an Annie?

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Re: William Ruddock
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 14 August 22 05:23 BST (UK) »
Is them in 1841 in Ayr?

Wille Ruddock 40 Lab born Ireland
Ann Ruddock 45 born Ireland
Alexr Ruddock 15
Janet Ruddock 14
John Ruddock 11
Saml Ruddock 8
Robt Ruddock 6
Grace Ruddock   4
Wm Ruddock 20

1851 Ann is not there;
William Reddick   60
John Reddick   25
Robert Reddick   21
Grace Reddick   17
John Mornson   34
Isabella Dickson   30
William Morrison 6
Margaret Morrison 3

So she may have died 1841-1851 although not down as deceased on Graces M/C?

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Re: William Ruddock
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 14 August 22 05:32 BST (UK) »
For those trying to help;

1861 Census
James Rodgers 60 Head
Ann Rodgers 56   Wife
Andrew Hamilton 18   Son
William Ruddock 76   Lodger (1785)
Mary Mcroberts 80   Lodger
Alex Ruddock  34   Lodger

1871 Census
James Rodgars 69 Head
Ann Rodgars 68   Wife
William Ruddock 87 Brother-in-law born Ireland (1784)

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Re: William Ruddock
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 14 August 22 09:48 BST (UK) »
Scotlands People has several Reddox deaths in Ayrshire between 1841-1851.  Mainly children but there is an entry 29.12.1849 for a 64yr old female but no christian name

Neither the 1841 or 1851 has any entries for that surname

EDIT - sorry - just realised Ann was only 45 in 1841 so cannot be her
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Re: William Ruddock
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 14 August 22 09:56 BST (UK) »

The 1841 & 1851 censuses posted by Trish are on freecen, 1851 below.

REDDICK   William   Head   W   60   Agricultural Labourer   Ireland   -
REDDICK   John           Son   U   25   Collier - Oncostman   Ireland   -
REDDICK   Robert   Son   U   21   Agricultural Labourer   Ireland   -
REDDICK   Grace   Dau   U   17   Hand Sewer   Ireland   -
MANSON   John   Lodger   M   34   Collier - Oncostman   Ayrshire   Ayr
DICKSON   Isabella   Lodger   M   30   Hand Sewer   Wigtownshire   New Luce
MORRISON   William   Lodger   -   6      Ayrshire   Ayr
MORRISON   Margaret   Lodger   -   3      Ayrshire   Coylton

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Re: William Ruddock
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 14 August 22 10:00 BST (UK) »
Thanks Colin.

I dont type up the whole census anymore as I have found in recent years people seem to have more access.
Or maybe I've got lazier ;D
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Re: William Ruddock
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 14 August 22 10:17 BST (UK) »
I know the feeling Trish. The strange thing on this family is the 1841 census states all children born Ayrshire but the ones still with their father in 1851 state Ireland. I do not see any baptisms for the name in Ayrshire on SP.

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Re: William Ruddock
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 14 August 22 10:24 BST (UK) »
These look to be marriages on SP for some of the family?

REDDOCH   ANN          JAMES RODGERS   12/07/1845   Ayr
RIDDACH   ALEXANDER MARGARET CARROL   11/12/1844   Ayr
RIDDOCH   SAMUEL   MARY BROWN           11/10/1845   Ayr
RUDDOCK   JOHN   MARGARET CHALMERS   17/07/1853   Ayr
RUDDOCK   WILLIAM   MARGARET CAMPBELL   22/01/1842   Ayr

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Re: William Ruddock
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 14 August 22 16:45 BST (UK) »
Hi all, thanks so far for these censuses and marriages etc

So if those are correct, I would assume William was actually born around the turn of the century, but perhaps in later years his age was exaggerated, and as his actual age increased, as did his 'fake age', until he was well into his 90s. So perhaps on his 1876 death cert he was actually aged around 75-85?
Although, there is still his older children, in particular, Hugh who's year of birth puzzles me. It may be worth noting, that William had a brother called John, John died in 1868 aged 84. Maybe the brothers have been muddled up?

Edit: Hugh's 1867 death cert says father William Ruddock is still alive, and mother Anne (maiden name not listed) is deceased.

2nd edit: Samuel's death cert in 1863, father William is still alive and mother Anne Jefs is deceased.