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Offline shanreagh

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Re: Stephen Agen and Maria Steen
« Reply #9 on: Friday 19 August 22 22:03 BST (UK) »
Background on previous thread for daughter Annie (Agen) Golden Park-
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=865045.msg7351440#msg7351440

Are you sure Stephen and Maria actually moved to the U.S.? I can't see any mention of that in earlier topic.

Added- there are no records for 'Agen' as a surname in Ireland for births, marriages & deaths on Irish Genealogy site. I suspect the actual surname might be something like Egan.
Haven't seen her parents in the US yet, but haven't looked hard either.
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No Agen on Griffith's either
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https://www.johngrenham.com/surnamescode/twosurnames.php?surname2=steen&surname=eagan

searching for anywhere in Ireland where the surnames Steen and Eagan are found together on Griffith's Valuation - the only place is Shankill Parish, Belfast

for Steen
County         Civil parish   Households
Belfast city   Shankill   15

for Eagan
County   Civil parish   Households
Belfast city   Shankill   1

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the only Eagan I found was Hugh Eagan on Hopeton Street, Shankill Parish, St Ann's Ward, renting a house and yard.
https://www.askaboutireland.ie/griffith-valuation/

Griffith's Valuation was taken in Antrim in 1861-1862

There are 3904 Egan records on Griffiths!

And 1491 Egan records on the The tithe Applotment books

Hours of fun!

ETA I think looking at Annie's hesitant signature on the marriage document that she may not have been fully comfortable with reading/writing and therefore not able to correct a mistranscription of her name.....bearing in mind she would have had an accent and people writing records for her would have written what they heard. This may not been the way it was often written in the country of origin. 

Thank you Aghadowey for the tip about possible spelling of the name in Ireland.

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Re: Stephen Agen and Maria Steen
« Reply #10 on: Friday 19 August 22 22:45 BST (UK) »

There are 3904 Egan records on Griffiths!
And 1491 Egan records on the The tithe Applotment books
Hours of fun!

ETA I think looking at Annie's hesitant signature on the marriage document that she may not have been fully comfortable with reading/writing and therefore not able to correct a mistranscription of her name.....bearing in mind she would have had an accent and people writing records for her would have written what they heard. This may not been the way it was often written in the country of origin. 

Thank you Aghadowey for the tip about possible spelling of the name in Ireland.

Right about the Egans. I forgot the lady was from Tipperary and was only looking in Shankill, because that is the only place that Steen and Eagan were both found on Griffith's Valuation. - Not sure about Steen and Egan -  I don't know how John Grenham's surname search handles sound alike names.
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Regarding Annie's signature, a possible match for widow Annie (Agen) Golden on the 1870 census. said she couldn't read or write English.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M8D1-R7S
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There were a few other Agens in New York at the time, so she wasn't the only one spelling it that way. Not to say that they all couldn't have been Eagan or Egan somewhere else.
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Still no closer to finding her death and burial in the US or her Irish origin, though.