Author Topic: Miln Dam Rd and Whirry Park Isle of Whithorn Query.  (Read 2285 times)

Offline John Bell

  • RootsChat Senior
  • ****
  • Posts: 456
  • I've not edited my PROFILE yet
    • View Profile
Miln Dam Rd and Whirry Park Isle of Whithorn Query.
« on: Tuesday 06 September 22 05:10 BST (UK) »
Hi All,
I am trying to identify the properties listed below in the Will of Capt Francis Carlyle Broadfoot (1803-1874) who died in I.O.Whithorn in 1874.

There is a mention of Miln Damn Road and Isle of Whirry Park.

Can anyone identify either of these two places mentioned.

Capt Broadfoot did live sometime at Dunbar House on Tonderghie Row but I don't presume that this is the property referred to below.

Regards,

Sue
...

"All and Whole the house built by the deceased George Broadfoot in the Isle of Whithorn, on the lands of Buyoch and the ground whereon the same stands
lying on the South side of the Highway leading to the Harbour of Isle of Whithorn, with the yard thereto belonging lying at the back thereof, bounded as follows vist;
on the East by the house and yard in Buyoch belonging to Hugh Stewart Esq of Tonderghie and by John McCredie’s yard on the West;
Also All and the Whole another piece of ground or garden belonging to the said house bounded by the Miln Damn Road on the East end, by the yard now or formerly the property of the said Hugh Stewart, on the North and South sides,
and by the Isle of Wirry Park on the West,"
BELL :Coatbridge, Sct & West Aust
WALLIS :Lamberhurst, Ticehurst, Frant. Ssx & West Aust
SENYARD :London.
VEAZEY :London
PARMENTER :Acton Suffolk & London & West Aust

Offline Forfarian

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 15,085
  • http://www.rootschat.com/links/01ruz/
    • View Profile
Re: Miln Dam Rd and Whirry Park Isle of Whithorn Query.
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 06 September 22 08:23 BST (UK) »
Have a look at https://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/#zoom=17&lat=54.70046&lon=-4.36625&layers=168&b=1

and try the Valuation Rolls at www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk to see if either sheds any light.
Never trust anything you find online (especially submitted trees and transcriptions on Ancestry, MyHeritage, FindMyPast and other commercial web sites) unless it's an image of an original document - and even then be wary because errors can and do occur.

Offline John Bell

  • RootsChat Senior
  • ****
  • Posts: 456
  • I've not edited my PROFILE yet
    • View Profile
Re: Miln Dam Rd and Whirry Park Isle of Whithorn Query.
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 06 September 22 10:24 BST (UK) »
Dear Forfarian,

I must thank you for pointing me to the wonderful UK/Geo/Maps site.
I can see hours ahead being spent browsing regarding the Broadfoot & Duff families!

Yes, I have been working my way through the Valuation Rolls but have not as yet defined the parcels of lands mentioned in the Will to my satisfaction.
Thankfully, Isle Of Whithorn is a tad on the 'small but perfectly formed' side so it will become a process of elimination.

Thank you for the interest,

Sue.
BELL :Coatbridge, Sct & West Aust
WALLIS :Lamberhurst, Ticehurst, Frant. Ssx & West Aust
SENYARD :London.
VEAZEY :London
PARMENTER :Acton Suffolk & London & West Aust

Offline Maiden Stone

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 7,226
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: Miln Dam Rd and Whirry Park Isle of Whithorn Query.
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 06 September 22 19:32 BST (UK) »

There is a mention of Miln Damn Road and Isle of Whirry Park.

Can anyone identify either of these two places mentioned.

"Also All and the Whole another piece of ground or garden belonging to the said house bounded by the Miln Damn Road on the East end, "


Might it be Mill Dam Road? There's Mill Dam on the map.
Cowban


Offline John Bell

  • RootsChat Senior
  • ****
  • Posts: 456
  • I've not edited my PROFILE yet
    • View Profile
Re: Miln Dam Rd and Whirry Park Isle of Whithorn Query.
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 07 September 22 00:12 BST (UK) »
Yes, I also saw that.
It would be unusual for for it to be spelled incorrectly in the document BUT who knows.
Certainly one to consider and in the right area.

Thank you,

Sue.
BELL :Coatbridge, Sct & West Aust
WALLIS :Lamberhurst, Ticehurst, Frant. Ssx & West Aust
SENYARD :London.
VEAZEY :London
PARMENTER :Acton Suffolk & London & West Aust

Offline Ian Nelson

  • RootsChat Aristocrat
  • ******
  • Posts: 1,198
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: Miln Dam Rd and Whirry Park Isle of Whithorn Query.
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 07 September 22 00:24 BST (UK) »
Miln is interchangeable with Mill.  Miln/Mill Farm in Ardrossan.  Milngavie - pronounced Milguy but otherwise known as Gavin's Mill.
cheers, Ian
PS. I'd guess Whirry is the local speak for Whithorn
Norfolk, Nelsons of Gt Ryburgh, Gooch, Howman, COLLISONS,  Ainger, Couzens, Batrick (Norfolk & Dorset), Tubby ( also of Yorkshire) Cathcarts of Ireland, Lancashire & Isle of Wight) Dickinsons of Morecambe and Lancaster, Wilson of Poulton-le-Sands and Broughton.  Wilson - Ffrance of Rawcliffe,  Mitchells of Isle of Wight. Hair of Ayrshire, Williamson of Tradeston, Glasgow. Nelsons in Australia with Haywards Heath connections.

Offline Forfarian

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 15,085
  • http://www.rootschat.com/links/01ruz/
    • View Profile
Re: Miln Dam Rd and Whirry Park Isle of Whithorn Query.
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 07 September 22 10:23 BST (UK) »
It would be unusual for for it to be spelled incorrectly in the document BUT who knows.
'Correct' spelling is basically a 20th century concept.

Miln is a perfectly normal variant of mill, and damn of dam. Bearing in mind that Miln Damn and Mill Dam in speech would sounf pretty much the same, I have no doubt that it's the same road.
Never trust anything you find online (especially submitted trees and transcriptions on Ancestry, MyHeritage, FindMyPast and other commercial web sites) unless it's an image of an original document - and even then be wary because errors can and do occur.

Offline Maiden Stone

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 7,226
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: Miln Dam Rd and Whirry Park Isle of Whithorn Query.
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 07 September 22 18:41 BST (UK) »
The small number of roads and highways will narrow down the locations.
Cowban

Offline cir

  • RootsChat Extra
  • **
  • Posts: 47
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: Miln Dam Rd and Whirry Park Isle of Whithorn Query.
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 29 October 22 13:49 BST (UK) »
Could I suggest you make contact with the Isle Heritage Group which has been working on the Isle's history for many years? Their facebook is,

https://www.facebook.com/groups/859313481917419/?mibextid=6NoCDW

or write to Hugh Jaques 37 Tonderghie Road. Isle of Whithorn    Tel  01988 500686

I am sure they will be happy to help as they have considerable resources.

Regards C

Ramsden (Stanley nr Wakefield) and Roo (Horsforth) in West Yorkshire, UK