Birthplace ........Perthshire Scotland

[bbart]

I assume William and Jane are the people getting married?

Can you toss us their surnames from the marriage, please? Going to try the old newspapers out of desperation!

[acaciabound]

William and Jane are the parents of Janet Gorrie. b 1847 Perthshire
That is Janets Australian marriage certificate stating where she was born.


I did just come across this place but not sure still...
 - could it be Cairnie
https://saintsplaces.gla.ac.uk/place.php?id=1403

[Ruskie]

The death certificate should give information about place of birth too, though detail and correctness is dependent on knowledge of informant.

[bbart]

I am looking at the 1851 INDEX for what I think is the correct family:

William is a bleacher, born Methven 1815
Jane b 1816
Children
James b 1842 in Tibbermuir (as transcribed, so Tibbermore I would assume)
John b 1844      ditto
Janet b 1847      ditto
William Jr b 1851   in Perth Parish

So if this is the right family, some where close to Tibbermore. 

Back to the map!

[acaciabound]

Yes, correct family and yes to Tibbermore but that is not what the certificate has, which maybe could be a house / hospital name and not a town.

[bbart]

I am only seeing ONE reference to a Craven, and I am not even sure if it is part of the address.  Its an ad in a 1917 newspaper.  And 30 miles from Tibbermore.
It IS possible Jane did a "laying in" away from home.

[acaciabound]

Thank you BBart and everyone else for your input.
I will leave it as is for now that we all think Craven

Thanks again

[bbart]

Someone may still come along with a new angle.  Keep checking back!

[arthurk]

I'm not happy with it being Craven: I have interests in Craven as a surname and an area, both in Yorkshire, and I also have connections in Perthshire. In all the years I've been researching I've never come across anywhere in Perthshire called Craven - nor anyone, for that matter. If it had come up, I'm sure I would have noticed. I think the newspaper ad must be giving the name of an incomer - he was a butler and ex-soldier, so quite possibly someone who was happy to move around for suitable work.

I did just come across this place but not sure still...
 - could it be Cairnie
https://saintsplaces.gla.ac.uk/place.php?id=1403

I'm afraid I wasn't happy with this either - it is in or associated with somewhere called Ruthven, but that one is in Aberdeenshire.

I've pored over old maps and not seen anything likely, so I think it's most likely a best guess on the part of a clerk or minister based on what they heard. As such, it might be Ruthven, which is pronounced 'Riven'; or alternatively, but probably less likely, Methven, pronounced 'Mevin'.