Request for parents of Ellen McCarthy (b. 1826 Cork, Ireland)

[beyondsunrises]

Bridget was baptised January 1841 in Dunmanway
https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000633410#page/47/mode/1up
(See the bottom of right hand page)
Residence is Castle Road and the sponsors are Jeremiah and Margaret Collins, I think.

23rd July 1842
Timothy to the same parents and the same residence
https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000633410#page/68/mode/1up


2nd November 1843
Ellen - same parents and residence
https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000633410#page/84/mode/1up

I can see the records first on another site and then look for them on Catholic NLI https://registers.nli.ie/
Sometimes, that site is difficult to negotiate as the records can be out of sync. I hope you get to the right ones from the links.
As noted earlier, the surnames are very common to that area as you can see from the records but there seems to be only one Michael C married to Ellen McC.

Lastly, you have Ellen born in 1826 which would make her marriage in 1837 questionable.

In 1851, Bermondsey, she is 29 yrs - born about 1822.
In 1861, Bermondsey, she is 38 yrs born abt 1823.

Where do you have her born 1826?

Jeremiah and Margaret Collins are my x4 great grandparents, so it adds up that they were Bridget's sponsors.

I know its not always accurate, but Ancestry lists Ellen's birthdate as 1826:
https://www.ancestry.co.uk/family-tree/person/tree/180166371/person/412391502156/facts

[heywood]

If you look at that tree, her age in 1851 and 1861 is more like a birth 1822/23.

The tree owner (not Ancestry) has posted a baptism for 1826. If this is so, she would be 11 years old, if that is her marriage in 1837.

[beyondsunrises]

If you look at that tree, her age in 1851 and 1861 is more like a birth 1822/23.

The tree owner (not Ancestry) has posted a baptism for 1826. If this is so, she would be 11 years old, if that is her marriage in 1837.

Thank you.

[heywood]

You wrote:
“Jeremiah and Margaret Collins are my x4 great grandparents, so it adds up that they were Bridget's sponsors.”

When I look at the tree you quoted they are entered as Michael Collins’ parents.
However, the tree owner also has Michael’s marriage to Julia Mahony in 1839 with children from that marriage besides your ancestors from Ellen MCarthy.

The information does not look credible.

[aghadowey]

Before you get to set on that marriage record...

This looks likely to be the marriage
February 5th 1837 - Drimoleague - Michael Collins to Nell McCarthy
https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000633309#page/72/mode/1up

but the one I found is 3 March 1840 

Dunmanway registers here- marriages start 1818- https://registers.nli.ie/parishes/0048
There are also some Cork records on Ireland Genealogy site (also free). One possibility here but early marriages don't list names of parents-
https://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/display-pdf.jsp?pdfName=cork%20%26%20ross.dunmanway.p4805.00433

[heywood]

Oh thanks aghadowey. That’s a good find.
I think I have already said that the names are common so quite difficult.
Yours fits with the baptisms too so that’s favourable.

[beyondsunrises]

You wrote:
“Jeremiah and Margaret Collins are my x4 great grandparents, so it adds up that they were Bridget's sponsors.”

When I look at the tree you quoted they are entered as Michael Collins’ parents.
However, the tree owner also has Michael’s marriage to Julia Mahony in 1839 with children from that marriage besides your ancestors from Ellen MCarthy.

The information does not look credible.

Jeremiah and Margaret are definitely Michael's parents because a cousin of mine found them after doing research on the family when he went to see our cousins who still live in Ireland, and found the records from one of the churches in the town.

You're right though, there are some odd dates in the additional info about Julia, and they've always puzzled me!

[beyondsunrises]

Before you get to set on that marriage record...

This looks likely to be the marriage
February 5th 1837 - Drimoleague - Michael Collins to Nell McCarthy
https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000633309#page/72/mode/1up

but the one I found is 3 March 1840 

Dunmanway registers here- marriages start 1818- https://registers.nli.ie/parishes/0048
There are also some Cork records on Ireland Genealogy site (also free). One possibility here but early marriages don't list names of parents-
https://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/display-pdf.jsp?pdfName=cork%20%26%20ross.dunmanway.p4805.00433

Thank you for noticing this - it seems there are a lot of discrepancies in Michael and Ellen's records, which leaves to a lot of questions!