Watters or Waters, Hugh Parents search but no luck...help please?

[rosie17]

Looks very nice obviously been renovated as you said I think this is Hugh Waters on the Glasgow Lanarkshire Electoral Registers 1857-1962

Hugh Waters address 22 Nicholson Street tenant of house and stable 87-89 Abbotsford Lane
His occupation cab driver ,Carter .He is at the same address up to 1859 his occupation matches with his immigration record .Still no luck with the 1841 census which he most probably is still in Ireland

Rosie

[thomo7]

Looks very nice obviously been renovated as you said I think this is Hugh Waters on the Glasgow Lanarkshire Electoral Registers 1857-1962

Hugh Waters address 22 Nicholson Street tenant of house and stable 87-89 Abbotsford Lane
His occupation cab driver ,Carter .He is at the same address up to 1859 his occupation matches with his immigration record .Still no luck with the 1841 census which he most probably is still in Ireland
Rosie

Thanks Rosie, I haven't seen the electoral record at all but yes, the immigration passenger list has "cart." crossed out and "labourer" written after it. All makes sense.
Do you know if there are Irish census records for the 1840s? I haven't found any free records yet and not sure where to look next.

I have been a little sidetracked on Isabella Howie Fisher;'s side I have found a 'random' record where the "Howie" and "Gemmell" connections appears.
Must be off, bedtime here. Cheers.

[rosie17]

There are not many 1841 census records for Ireland I have had a look on what is available but nothing
For free records you can try www,familysearch.org also the freecen which I mentioned .I never seem to have much luck on the early Irish records ..Yes it must be late for you now time for bed 

Rosie

[hmcc]

There is a will for Hugh Watters on family search if you have not already seen it.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QRH8-LSW2

hmcc

[rosie17]

You might have this death Margaret Fisher other name Gemmel died 1866 Riccarton age 67years
Mothers maiden name Howie

Rosie

[rosie17]

Think we have a possible connection here I found a James Waters on the 1861 census
Address 22,Nicholson Street Govan
James Waters born Ireland about 1819 age 42 ( labourer )
Mary Waters born Ireland age 42
Margaret Waters age 12 born Glasgow
Michael Waters age 5 born England
James Waters age 3 born England
There is also a few lodgers in the household all born Ireland

On the 1855 Valuation Record 1855 James Waters is at  Stables 87/89 Abbostford Lane
Same address recorded for Hugh Waters

There is the marriage for James Waters and Mary Jennings 16 /1/1848 Gorbals
Roman Catholic Records banns and marriages 1/ 2 /1848 not sure what information would be on the record but might be worth a  view . A tree online has his death 16 December 1864 Main Street .There is a death  on Scotland's People for  James Waters 1864 Hutchesontown no mothers maiden name on the index
 
Rosie

[thomo7]

There are not many 1841 census records for Ireland I have had a look on what is available but nothing
For free records you can try www,familysearch.org also the freecen which I mentioned .I never seem to have much luck on the early Irish records ..Yes it must be late for you now time for bed 
Rosie

Thanks Rosie, I'll continue to check these out. AND,...
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Think we have a possible connection here I found a James Waters on the 1861 census
Address 22,Nicholson Street Govan
James Waters born Ireland about 1819 age 42 ( labourer )
Mary Waters born Ireland age 42
Margaret Waters age 12 born Glasgow
Michael Waters age 5 born England
James Waters age 3 born England
There is also a few lodgers in the household all born Ireland

On the 1855 Valuation Record 1855 James Waters is at  Stables 87/89 Abbostford Lane
Same address recorded for Hugh Waters

There is the marriage for James Waters and Mary Jennings 16 /1/1848 Gorbals
Roman Catholic Records banns and marriages 1/ 2 /1848 not sure what information would be on the record but might be worth a  view . A tree online has his death 16 December 1864 Main Street .There is a death  on Scotland's People for  James Waters 1864 Hutchesontown no mothers maiden name on the index
 Rosie

Wow, great link between the Valuation record and previous link to Hugh's address. i havent seen valuation records before so good place to follow up some other searches.
ill have a look at those now
thanks again

[thomo7]

There is a will for Hugh Watters on family search if you have not already seen it.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QRH8-LSW2

hmcc

hmcc, thanks so much for that. I have even passed it on to my mother-in-law as Margaret Gemmill Waters, was her great grandmother. Cheers

[Rosinish]

On the 1851 census address Bolton Street Govan
Hugh Watters age 23 born about 1828 Formunoch Ireland would think it would Fermanagh

www. freecen,org 1851 census his place of birth County Fermanagh

From Rosie's 1851 census entry for Hugh and Isabella, and the mention of Fermanagh.
I wonder if this other 1851 census entry could be connected to Hugh?:

Bridget Watters 24 Calico Printfield Labourer Lodger b. Ferman, Ireland
Helen Watters 21 Calico Printfield Labourer Lodger b. Ferman, Ireland

Address: No 5 Strathblane Road Mr Glassford's Houses, Milngavie, East Kilpatrick, Stirlingshire
Wondering if the Ferman. on the transcript could also be Fermanagh?

I'm checking out old maps through NLS to see if the entries for Ferman and Fermanagh are likely the same.

I'm confused!

Are you checking the locations of the 2 Scottish addresses for a possible connection or are you looking for Ferman/Fermanagh, Ireland on maps on NLS (National Library of Scotland)?

Annie