More Stewart questions!

[wivenhoe]

I have corrected the occupation I gave at 1871 to be "taylor" as shown in the census. I do not think the enumerator would have made such an error for the  word "tailor" so I suspect that this is a transcription error.

It helps to have a picture of what the census records give you -

Ancestry Census 1861 Scotland   at Inver Logierait Perthshire
STEWART Peter         42y   ag labourer                    b. Strathturmond, Perthshire       
STEWART Margaret    31y   formerly dressmaker      b.  Leith Dunkeld, Perthshire
STEWART Christy       3y    dau                               b. Logierait Perthshire
STEWART Peter          1y    son                               b. Logierait Perthshire
Reg. District Logierait     Reg # 376   Ed  2   Household  65  lines 11-14 

Ancestry Census 1871 Scotland
ROBERTSON Ann         58y     head       b. Logierait Perthshire        (household 72 line 17)
/
STEWART Peter           53y    taylor        b. Blairathole      Perthshire
STEWART Margaret     39y                    b. Little Dunkeld Perthshire
STEWART Peter           11y         son     b. Logierait         Perthshire
STEWART Margaret        9y        dau     b. Logierait         Perthshire   
STEWART John              6y        son       b. Logierait         Perthshire
STEWART Susan            3y        dau      b. Little Dunkeld  Perhshre
STEWART Margaret       11m      dau      b. Logierait         Perthshire  (household 73 lines 18-24)
/
households 74+ are address Anvallach   would seem to be an estate name.   

Ancestry  Census  1881 Scotland    at Rattray Perthshire
STEWART Margaret    50y   head     housekeeper   b. Little Dunkeld Perthshire
STEWART Christian    23y   dau     jute preparer    b. Logierait Perthshire
STEWART Peter          21y  son      jute preparer    b. Logierait Perthshire
STEWART John           16y  son      jute preparer    b. Logierait Perthshire

next page  address Bramblebank
STEWART Mary Ann    11y  dau      jute preparer    b. Logierait Perthshire
STEWART Duncan         8y son                              b. Auchtergaven, Perthshire
STEWART Isabella        6y son                               b. Auchtergaven, Perthshire


Where is Christy/Christian STEWART  b. ~ 1858 for the 1871 Census?

Is this Christian?

Ancestry  Census  1871 Scotland at Croftmarting Kenmore Perthshire
DEWAR Margaret      40y  head  tenant 3 acres land    b. Kenmore Perthshire
STEWART Christian   12y  niece   scholar                    b. Dull Perthshire

and Dull is the best transcription of Dunkeld.

Who is Margaret DEWAR to this STEWART family?

[Rosinish]

Dull & Dunkeld both in Perthshire are approx. 20 miles apart...

http://www.rootschat.com/links/01rv0/

Annie

Edited to add image.

[Neale1961]

Ann, the discrepancies in the occupation are odd. You have Peter in 1841 and 1871 as a Taylor / Tailor, but at other times an agricultural labourer. Very unusual

I wonder if this could be him in 1851. Age is a bit out, but he may not have been the one giving the information.
https://www.freecen.org.uk/search_records/6206549df493fd5c6de02d93/peter-stewart-1851-midlothian-edinburgh-1826-?locale=en

[Forfarian]

Duncan Stewart Bohally Parish of Dull

https://www.geograph.org.uk/gridref/NN7859

Christian Robertson Treassaid (?) Jany 22, 1800

As Neale says, it's Tressait http://www.geograph.org.uk/gridref/NN8160

and Dull is the best transcription of Dunkeld.

Dull is an entirely separate parish in its own right, not a transcription or abbreviation of Dunkeld.
See https://stataccscot.edina.ac.uk/static/statacc/dist/parish/Perth/Dull

Anvallach would seem to be an estate name.

Anvallach is a figment of Ancestry's fevered and perennially erroneous imagination. There is no substitute for looking at the original document (though in this particular case FindMyPast has correctly transcribed the place names).

Schedule No 69 is at Ballachraggan https://www.geograph.org.uk/gridref/NN9953
Schedule No 70 is at Charlottefield https://www.geograph.org.uk/gridref/NN9853 and zoom in twice
Schedules Nos 71, 72 and 73 are at Craigbea https://www.geograph.org.uk/gridref/NN9853
Schedules Nos 74, 75 and 76 are at Convallach https://www.geograph.org.uk/gridref/NN9953 and zoom in twice
Schedule No 77 is Tullymet House https://www.geograph.org.uk/gridref/NN9954
Schedules Nos 78, 79, 80 and 81 are hard to read but something like Blairinroish. Could be Blaranrash? https://www.geograph.org.uk/gridref/NN9954

They're all on the six-inch Ordnance Survey map at https://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/#zoom=16.0&lat=56.66371&lon=-3.65135&layers=5&b=1&marker=56.66223,-3.65752

And yes, the enumerator recorded Peter's occupation as Taylor. In the middle of the 19th century, spelling was much more variable and it's very common to find taylor where we would now write tailor.

I was once at a lecture that included discussion of spelling and the lecturer said there are 53 different recorded ways of spelling Taylor.

[annstewartplude]

I am all mixed up and starting over! 
You all have given me such great information and questions that I got a little confused and overwhelmed!
I have definitely found Peter's death cert. And I am going to start working his life backwards from there.
I am confused as to why he is listed as tailor have the time and farm hand the other times. I know people often do different jobs- but it is odd.
His marriage certificate even lists ploughman
 

[Rosinish]

Can I ask if you have a family tree, on/offline & are you using a family tree software?

You might find this site useful...

http://www.borenich.co.uk/

I'm not sure if you missed it previously, however, the site contains much more info. than the page showing when you click on the link & has been very well researched.

Here's another page from the same link...

It's a transcription of the 1841 census...

http://www.borenich.co.uk/1841%20census.html

Scroll down to "Grennich - Blair Atholl Parish (district 4)"...

A transcription of the 1841 you posted.


Another link I found which may be of interest is...https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Stewart-6945

I've already seen an error on the date of death for Peter Stewart given as 1889 i.e. as with any/all info. online, it should all be verified by yourself.

Annie

[wivenhoe]

This death certificate - this is definitely the (ancestor?) you are researching?
 
STEWART Peter   pauper formerly a tailor    married to Margaret FORBES
died 24 December 1878 at Craigs Works Logie Pert
m(ale)    60 years 
Parents:  Duncan STEWART crofter and general labourer (deceased)
              Christina STEWART   M.S.  ROBERTSON (deceased)

Chronis bronchitis  and spasmodic asthma  one year
Heart disease and general dropsy  three months    John SIMPSON    L.R.C.S.  Edinburgh

Informant   Peter STEWART  son   present.

Registered 26 December Logie Pert   John MORRISON  Registrar

When did Christina STEWART, wife of this Peter, die?. Do you have her death certificate?

[wivenhoe]

Where is Logie Pert...what county on the death certificate?. 

My write-up at reply#27 for Census has the STEWART famiy in Perthshire.

Google  has Logie Pert in Angus and/or Aberdeenshire.

Is there a significant difference between Perthshire and......Logie Pert in County....what?

Peter STEWART, died 1878 aged 60 years at Logie Pert?....and son Peter STEWART is present...in Logie Pert at 1878?   and wife Margaret STEWART nee FORBES is alive?

In the context of a death certificate, Scotland, 1878, what does "pauper" suggest?

Does Peter STEWART, died 1878, have no means of income?.....wife Margaret has no means of income?

How are they living?

[Forfarian]

Where is Logie Pert...what county on the death certificate?.
My write-up at reply#27 for Census has the STEWART famiy in Perthshire.
Google  has Logie Pert in Angus and/or Aberdeenshire.
Is there a significant difference between Perthshire and......Logie Pert in County....what?

I would say there is. Logie Pert is on the coast, just north of Montrose, in the county of Angus. You can't get much further from central Perthshire and still be in Angus.

Craigo (not Craigs) https://www.geograph.org.uk/gridref/NO6864 is right on the River North Esk, which is the boundary with Kincardineshire. (In the context of historical research, Google maps are not always helpful because they use the post-1975 local authority boundaries, not the ones that existed at the time. The historic county of Kincardine is now, but only since 1995, part of Aberdeenshire.)

This map https://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/#zoom=16.0&lat=56.77241&lon=-2.51174&layers=5&b=1&marker=56.77101,-2.51698 shows the bleach works there. Textiles, and in particular linen, were an important industry in Angus in the 19th century.

In the context of a death certificate, Scotland, 1878, what does "pauper" suggest?

It specifically implies that he was on a parish's list of poor receiving support from the parochial board. Not necessarily the parish where he was living at the time.