German Church in Liverpool - Kraulodat & Palogad

[djocam]

August Kraulodat & Anna Palogad married in this church on the 24th Jan 1875 according to their GRO marriage cert.
Both signed with an x, residence for both was 2 Homley St, Liverpool.
I read with interest another query from 2013 where someone else received some awesome help from another member about their family that the church register had and the marriage document didn't have.

I am hoping that there is a possibility that I might be able to find out more information from the church register about this couple.  Where they came from etc.  I note on the marriage certificate their parents names and occupations but we have literally nothing else to go on with where they actually came from.

August & Anna had a daughter (named Anna) sometime in 1876 (no birth registration has ever been found for her) and by July 13th 1876 they had set sail for New Zealand onboard the Orari where they settled and changed their name to Crowder. 
Naturalisation for August "Crowder" in 1896 had no clues about their homeland other than to say they were Polish.  Death certs in NZ have variations of their surnames and no place listed for their birth other than Poland.
The nearest DNA matches to the family (Anna's side) are by the name Pallokat and we think that this line are from a brother of Anna which emigrated to New York.  This family has German origins.

If there is anyone out there who is able to look in the church register and tell me more that would be wonderful.  It's also likely there may be a baptism for their daughter Anna also.

I am unable to visit in person as I'm in NZ.

Thank you
Jo

 

[CaroleW]

Marriage certs/register entries do not have any details of the couples origins

[maddys52]

I assume this is the thread you mentioned.
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=430735

Maybe if you post a reply to that thread asking for a lookup of the possible baptism, "liverpool church" will receive notification of your post (if she still has the same email address). The thread does have her name - I see googling her name comes up with an address in Liverpool - you could try contacting her. She is the archivist of the German Church  Liverpool. Unfortunately she only made 2 posts, so you probably can't contact her through the private message system.

[sugarbakers]

The Anglo-German Family History Society may be able to advise you - https://www.agfhs.com
They also now have a Facebook page.

[ShaunJ]

The "archivar"'s phone number is at the bottom of this document:

https://docs.google.com/document/d/e/2PACX-1vTS7oxrZX5FG7fu5d09fQIOW8U_75746J8MlutEylVoMAI34UIjeyr5skjq3FLwZL8jGPFeTCJPNhNJ/pub

[ciderdrinker]

Hi
Suggestion on their entry on Find a Grave that the couple come from Poland.
Her maiden name Poloykart

possible baptism for August Kraulodat

August Krauledat
Gender:   Männlich (Male)
Event Type:   Taufe (Baptism)
Birth Date:   25. Jun 1859 (25 Jun 1859)
Baptism Date:   26. Jun 1859 (26 Jun 1859)
Baptism Place:   Mehlkehmen, Stallupönen, Ostpreussen, Deutschland (Germany)
Father:   
Christian Krauledat
Mother:   
Eva Krauledat
Legitimacy:   Ehelich
Page number:   129;130
Author:   Evangelische Kirche Mehlkehmen (Kr. Stallupönen)
City or District:   Mehlkehmen

It is now Kallinino which is just in Russia -that detached bit near Kallingrad.

As you know Augus Wilhelm Kraulodat was born 1852 according to his gravestone so it is a bit out.
Otherwise there is this in Danzig

Danzig-Westpr, Neu Paleschken, Koscierzyna u Nowe Polaszki, , Deutschland

Birth Date

30 Jan 1853

Father's Name

August Carlotzartowicz

Mother's Name Auguste

Mother's Alias Baska


There is also a family tree on Ancestry gives his parents as August Kraulodat and Ann Myers.
Anna's father is John.
Anna Plokarz Possen 14.1.1851 d of Joannes and Catharina Uzarek could be her


Ciderdrinker

[djocam]

I assume this is the thread you mentioned.
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=430735

Maybe if you post a reply to that thread asking for a lookup of the possible baptism, "liverpool church" will receive notification of your post (if she still has the same email address). The thread does have her name - I see googling her name comes up with an address in Liverpool - you could try contacting her. She is the archivist of the German Church  Liverpool. Unfortunately she only made 2 posts, so you probably can't contact her through the private message system.

Thank you yes this is the thread, I've messaged her so I've got my fingers crossed for a similar outcome. 

[djocam]

Hi
Suggestion on their entry on Find a Grave that the couple come from Poland.
Her maiden name Poloykart

possible baptism for August Kraulodat

August Krauledat
Gender:   Männlich (Male)
Event Type:   Taufe (Baptism)
Birth Date:   25. Jun 1859 (25 Jun 1859)
Baptism Date:   26. Jun 1859 (26 Jun 1859)
Baptism Place:   Mehlkehmen, Stallupönen, Ostpreussen, Deutschland (Germany)
Father:   
Christian Krauledat
Mother:   
Eva Krauledat
Legitimacy:   Ehelich
Page number:   129;130
Author:   Evangelische Kirche Mehlkehmen (Kr. Stallupönen)
City or District:   Mehlkehmen

It is now Kallinino which is just in Russia -that detached bit near Kallingrad.

As you know Augus Wilhelm Kraulodat was born 1852 according to his gravestone so it is a bit out.
Otherwise there is this in Danzig

Danzig-Westpr, Neu Paleschken, Koscierzyna u Nowe Polaszki, , Deutschland

Birth Date

30 Jan 1853

Father's Name

August Carlotzartowicz

Mother's Name Auguste

Mother's Alias Baska


There is also a family tree on Ancestry gives his parents as August Kraulodat and Ann Myers.
Anna's father is John.
Anna Plokarz Possen 14.1.1851 d of Joannes and Catharina Uzarek could be her


Ciderdrinker

Thank you, August's death cert has the same name as his marriage cert so I'm fairly sure that August  Kraulodat & Annie Myers are his parents.  It's Annie's name that I've seen spelt numerous ways.  On her death cert it names her father as John but it's either Hans or Hoins on the marriage cert. 

[djocam]

The Anglo-German Family History Society may be able to advise you - https://www.agfhs.com
They also now have a Facebook page.

Thank you I'll give them a go!