James Thomas Serjeant/Sergeant/Sargent

[Korowe]

Just posting 1881 census for information

RG11 / 522 f112 p20 - St George, Southwark
James Sargent 29 General Dealer
Caroline 27 General Dealer
James 7
Richard 4
Caroline 3
Elizabeth 9 months
ALL born Southwark

Thank you yes this is my family.

[Neale1961]

George SERJEANT married St George Hannover Sq. 1814 to Ann JAMES

1851 census St Pancras
George Serjeant, head, born abt 1791 St Pancras, cabinet maker   (He died 1864)
Ann Serjeant, wife Ann born abt 1795 St Pancras

George Serjeant jnr, son born 1819 St Pancras, printer copperplate
    Jane Serjeant – 25, wife of George jnr (maiden name Parkman – married 1848)
    Jane Serjeant – daughter of George jnr
    George Serjeant – son of George jnr

James Serjeant, son born 1824 St Pancras, widower, printer copperplate
    Mary Serjeant – 3, daughter of James

Thomas Serjeant, son born 1827 St Pancras, printer copperplate
William Serjeant, son born 1835 St Pancras, pianoforte key maker

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In 1861 census – Only father George, wife Ann and youngest son William (still single) are living in the same house.

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Except for James, all the brothers are easy to trace – marriages, children, and through the census and to their deaths, etc.

This probably birth of James’ daughter seen in the 1851 census and 1861
SARJANT, MARY  ANN     mother: GROVES 
GRO Reference: 1849  J Quarter in SAINT PANCRAS  Volume 01  Page 297

Possible death for James  - 1870
SERJEANT, JAMES       45 
GRO Reference: 1870  S Quarter in HACKNEY  Volume 01B  Page 336

[amondg]

There is a marriage for a Caroline Ward December Quarter St Saviour ref 1d page 8. Year 1869.

However all the other names on that page are from Bermondsey

2 women and 2 men Bermondsey also vol. 1d page 8

Only Caroline ward listed in italics for St Saviour No corresponding partner
Perhaps someone who knows more about the numbering system can help. 

[Neale1961]

There is a marriage for a Caroline Ward December Quarter St Saviour ref 1d page 80

What year please?

[maddys52]

Dec qtr 1869

[Neale1961]

1st MARRIAGE 17 May 1846 St Pancras
James Serjeant (music printer) son of George (Cabinet maker)
to Mary Ann Craxford (daughter of Thomas – deceased)

There was a child Mary Ann Charlotte baptised 9 May 1847 in St Marylebone
 When she married in 1873 to William STEVENS, she was living South Hackney. Thomas John Serjeant (her uncle?) was a witness.

James Serjeant 1st wife died in 1848
DEATH:
SARGEANT, MARY  ANN     23 
GRO Reference: 1848  J Quarter in SAINT PANCRAS  Volume 01  Page 296

2nd MARRIAGE 23 Nov 1851 Old Church St Pancras
James Serjeant - Widower - Music Printer – Father George a Cabinet Maker
To Ann (Mary Elizabeth) MURPHY – spinster – daughter of Jeremiah Murphy a Mariner

1st child after the marriage
SERJEANT, JAMES  THOMAS          Mother - MURPHY 
GRO Reference: 1852  D Quarter in SAINT PANCRAS  Volume 01B  Page 77

ADDED:
Ann Murphy who married James Serjeant was sister to Julia Murphy who married William Serjeant – the piano maker (James Brother)

[Korowe]

1st MARRIAGE 17 May 1846 St Pancras
James Serjeant (music printer) son of George (Cabinet maker)
to Mary Ann Craxford (daughter of Thomas – deceased)

There was a child Mary Ann Charlotte baptised 9 May 1847 in St Marylebone
 When she married in 1873 to William STEVENS, she was living South Hackney. Thomas John Serjeant (her uncle?) was a witness.

James Serjeant 1st wife died in 1848
DEATH:
SARGEANT, MARY  ANN     23 
GRO Reference: 1848  J Quarter in SAINT PANCRAS  Volume 01  Page 296

2nd MARRIAGE 23 Nov 1851 Old Church St Pancras
James Serjeant - Widower - Music Printer – Father George a Cabinet Maker
To Ann (Mary Elizabeth) MURPHY – spinster – daughter of Jeremiah Murphy a Mariner

1st child after the marriage
SERJEANT, JAMES  THOMAS          Mother - MURPHY 
GRO Reference: 1852  D Quarter in SAINT PANCRAS  Volume 01B  Page 77

Thank you for all this, it gives me confidence I'm on the right track, I've been slowly going through it and building out this family tree. Jeremiah Murphy was born in Cork Ireland so I have hit a dead end with him. Ann Mary Elizabeth Murphy I believe died before the 1861 census as I can't find any trace of her. I've also found more children for her and James Thomas. I believe James Thomas died 1870 as he is not in the 1871 census. What happened to his son James Thomas in 1871 is still a mystery.

[Neale1961]

Yes James died in 1870 - see my previous post.

Children for James Serjeant and Ann Murphy
SERJEANT, JAMES  THOMAS     Mother - MURPHY 
GRO Reference: 1852  D Quarter in SAINT PANCRAS  Volume 01B  Page 77

SERJEANT, HENRY  CHARLES     Mother - MURPHY 
GRO Reference: 1854  S Quarter in SAINT PANCRAS  Volume 01B  Page 105

SERJEANT, EMILY  ELIZABETH     Mother - MURPHY 
GRO Reference: 1856  D Quarter in SAINT PANCRAS  Volume 01B  Page 94

SERJEANT, ANNIE  LOUISA          Mother - MURPHY     
GRO Reference: 1859  M Quarter in SAINT PANCRAS  Volume 01B  Page 92

In 1871 census: 12 year old Annie Louisa is in Sussex with her uncle and aunt Henry Curtis and Jane Sarah (nee Sergeant) – daughter of George the cabinet maker

It looks like the children of the family were split up after death of parents.

[Korowe]

Thank you, I didn't have Henry Charles but had found the others.