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The mysterious Hannah Carr
« on: Monday 24 October 22 14:10 BST (UK) »
Hannah Carr appears on the 1851 census in Leeds with her father, stepmother and stepbrother

John Carr 29 b  Tockwith
Caroline Carr 26 b Leeds
Hannah Carr 6 b Kirk Deighton
Charles Randerson 5 b Leeds

Piece: 2317, Folio: 230, Page: 6

John Carr widower married Caroline Randerson spinster in 1850.
I am almost certain that John's first wife was Grace Nettleton. whom he married in 1842.
See this post
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=866953.new#new

A number of on line trees have Hannah's full name as Hannah Lucy Maud Carr, born 15 September 1844. She should be registered in Q3 1844 in Knaresborough district if that is correct.
But I can find no trace of her birth reg or baptism.
There are three births reg for  Carrs with mmn Nettleton in Knaresborough district

Thomas Q2 1843
William Q3 1844
Thomas Q3 1845
and deaths of two Thomas Carrs, both age 0 in Q3 1843 and Q4 1845

Grace Carr died in Hunslet (Leeds district) in 1848. I cannot find a death for William either in Knaresborough or Leeds district before 1851, but no sign of him on 1851 census, and the quarter his birth is registered is when Hannah should have been registered if the various trees have her correct dob.
Could Hannah have been registered as William and it was discovered later she was female?
Any ideas?
Berks / Oxon: Eltham, Annetts, Wiltshire (surname not county), Hawkins, Pembroke, Partridge
Dorset / Hants: Derham, Stride, Purkiss, Sibley
Yorkshire: Pottage, Carr, Blackburn, Depledge
Sussex: Goodyer, Christopher, Trevatt
Lanark: Scott (soldier went to Jersey CI)
Jersey: Fowler, Huelin, Scott

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Re: The mysterious Hannah Carr
« Reply #1 on: Monday 24 October 22 17:02 BST (UK) »
I must admit that I am coming round to the thought that she was registered as William.   I can't see a death for William either and agree his birth was registered in the same year,  quarter and Reg District that Hannah would have been born in.    I wonder if the birth cert gives the same birthdate??

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Re: The mysterious Hannah Carr
« Reply #2 on: Monday 24 October 22 17:04 BST (UK) »
Just out of interest - what later information do YOU have related to Hannah? 

Yes, I can see a tree where Hannah (Lucy Maude) dies in Tasmania, and the family having left England in 1854.  BUT does any of that tie in with your knowledge of the family?

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AND you can discount the tree I found - John was baptised before he was born  :-X :-X

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Re: The mysterious Hannah Carr
« Reply #3 on: Monday 24 October 22 17:55 BST (UK) »
I have a DNA match with a descendant of Hannah. The path to the descendant has popped up on Thrulines. Her father John Carr is possibly the son of Thomas Carr and Sarah Randerson b Tockwith. Thomas Carr is the brother of my direct ancestor William Carr.
Berks / Oxon: Eltham, Annetts, Wiltshire (surname not county), Hawkins, Pembroke, Partridge
Dorset / Hants: Derham, Stride, Purkiss, Sibley
Yorkshire: Pottage, Carr, Blackburn, Depledge
Sussex: Goodyer, Christopher, Trevatt
Lanark: Scott (soldier went to Jersey CI)
Jersey: Fowler, Huelin, Scott


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Re: The mysterious Hannah Carr
« Reply #4 on: Monday 24 October 22 19:16 BST (UK) »
Minor point but all the trees on Ancestry, which give a birth date, have it as 15 July 1844 not 15 September.

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Re: The mysterious Hannah Carr
« Reply #5 on: Monday 24 October 22 19:33 BST (UK) »
Minor point but all the trees on Ancestry, which give a birth date, have it as 15 July 1844 not 15 September.
Sorry yes, it was July, I was thinking of registered September quarter
Berks / Oxon: Eltham, Annetts, Wiltshire (surname not county), Hawkins, Pembroke, Partridge
Dorset / Hants: Derham, Stride, Purkiss, Sibley
Yorkshire: Pottage, Carr, Blackburn, Depledge
Sussex: Goodyer, Christopher, Trevatt
Lanark: Scott (soldier went to Jersey CI)
Jersey: Fowler, Huelin, Scott